Jon Hall wrote: > Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 8:30:58 AM, you wrote: > > JvD> Not. Ironically, the current system of delegation of voting rights to > JvD> some representative is the ultimate form of capitalism in the "Wealth > JvD> of Nations" meaning. > > You are the one who questioned the systems fairness...are you saying > it shouldn't be changed?
No. I am saying that although I believe it should be changed, I also believe it currently can't be changed. The reference to the "Wealth of Nations" (forgot the full name) is both because of the warnings of unlimited capitalism, as to the theory of specialization leading to higher productivity in it. Both can be applied to the field of politics/government rather easily. Delegation of voting rights to some representative makes the total system more efficient because people can specialize in it (politicians). But it also entails the same risks, people losing control and their voices no longer being heard. > JvD> I don't think any economical revolution is ever going to change the way > JvD> the current delegated systems work. Maybe some countries will switch > JvD> from monarchy to republic or whatever, but some form of representative > JvD> government will prevail because withinthe current parameters it is the > JvD> most efficient system. > > See the American Revolution...and the after-effects of the Great > Depression here in the US. Both were about economics, and both > profoundly changed the political landscape forever here in the US. > Besides, economics is the foundation of capitalism, and by proxy > democracy here in the US at least...if anything is going to change it, > it's going to be economics. What changed fundamentally? American Revolution: from one government based on representation to another government based on representation. The only thing that changed was the percentage of the inhabitants of what is now known as the US that had voting rights. AFAIK the after-effects of the Great Depression where not so much in the way the US was governed, but in a change of the perception of how much influence the government should have in everyday live. > JvD> Ultimately, the only thing that could change this is some new form of > JvD> technology that can link up people's mind so they can think in some > JvD> sort of Collective. And I don't think I want to be part of a Hive just > JvD> yet... > > I'm thinking more along the lines of people not having to work to earn > money to survive anymore, only to prosper. Once the majority of people > have enough free time to pay attention to the details, the governments > will finally start moving towards true democracy. That would be the > end goal in my mind. I don't think I will live to see the birth of a > true democracy though, but one can hope. I don't share your optimism. The cost of decision in a true democracy is too high to ever become acceptable for people. Unfortunately. Jochem ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
