Does anybody ever consider that the constitution was written under a state
of passion?  You know what that feels like.  You do things out of gut
feelings and not out of clear thinking.  I mean if today was 9/12/01 and we
declared war on Iraq, almost 100% of us will go for it.  Remember a
prominent news source did a survey a few weeks after 9/11 asking Americans
if they would like to have non-citizens wear ID badges....and I think 40% or
50% said YES.  Kinda like what Nazis did to the Jews...

And I am sure those numbers would have changed by now.  We were just under
passion :)




-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How free are we?



Double-standards in the U.S. Government... never!

Actually, I was trying to say that the 3rd amendment is really not
needed.  It was added because when the Brits came over in the 1700s, they
forced their ways into the home of those living here.

If it ever gets to a point where we have to house troops in our homes
during a war, we will lose the war.

At 12:14 PM 10/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Ah, you're pointing out the U.S. double-standard. Our laws apply to us but
>nobody else, and not our military when dealing with non-US citizens, and
>even then not when it's a military matter, and...
>
>-Kevin Graeme
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacob [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:04 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: How free are we?
> >
> >
> > Exactly... With Bush sending troop to Afghanistan and Iraq, the Federal
> > Government will start housing troops in the residences of those living
in
> > Enid, OK...
> >
> > At 12:47 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >I still think it is very important to note that soldiers cannot be
> > >garrisoned in your home.  That was a major issue, and with these
> > uncertain
> > >times I could see it eventually becoming important again.
> > >
> > >
> > >That's the 3rd right?
> > >
> > >Tim
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:34 PM
> > >To: CF-Community
> > >Subject: RE: How free are we?
> > >
> > >
> > >Do you like 3rd amendment?  Why is there no debate of that one?  It was
> > >more important than the 4th or 5th amendment back in the 1780.
> > >
> > >At 12:13 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >Ok,
> > > >         I reread my earlier post and I guess I need to be
> > more obvious in
> > > > my attempts at humor.
> > > >
> > > >         I am not anti-ACLU or privacy rights or any other type of
> > > > rights.  I am a libertarian, don't confuse my stance on firearms
with
> > > > membership or agreement with the republicans and their conservative
> > > > views.  I like all ten of our initial amendments just fine,
> > and I defend
> > > > them all.  Hell, I think that dna evidence should be banned
> > because you
> > > > are in essence making a defendant testify against themselves
> > (unless you
> > > > can get the sample through other legal means, like searching
> > their trash
> > > > or what have you).
> > > >
> > > >Tim
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jacob@;excaliburfilms.com]
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:57 AM
> > > >To: CF-Community
> > > >Subject: Re: How free are we?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >A DDOS attack from ACLU launched on whitehouse.gov servers
> > that backfired...
> > > >
> > > >At 11:45 AM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >DoS attack from whitehouse.gov?
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:33 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: How free are we?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > yeah their app keeps throwing CF server errors... sever is
either
> > > > > > restarting service or is timing out.. growl...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paris Lundis
> > > > > > Founder
> > > > > > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > > > > > http://www.areaindex.com
> > > > > > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > > > > > 412-292-3135
> > > > > > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in
> > the present]
> > > > > > [connecting people, places and things]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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