Dubya is not as bad as shrub, though it really gets me laughing when i hear
it
just the picture that comes into head

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME


> Sorry Adam I just don't like people who don't respect people enough to
call
> them by their real name.
> As much as I didn't like Clinton, I didn't go around calling him Cunton,
> some such name of that sort.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:57 PM
> Subject: RE: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
>
>
> > No, it's just a really old/tired debate that has already been beat to
> death.
> > Some people feel he was appointed, some people think it was absolutely
> fair
> > and square. Since the govt. isn't really going to do anything about it,
> most
> > people are willing to just wait to vote dumbya out of the office instead
> of
> > sitting around for 4 years being unproductive. All I was asking is what
> > position would you feel more honorable in - holding the popular vote and
> not
> > being president; or having your brother's state create mass amounts of
> > scandal/accidents/chads/bullshit which in turn resulted in the court
> > appointing you president?
> >
> > By court decision (4 people sitting in a room twiddling their balls,
> > wondering how their decision will affect them), yes, Dumbya is our
> > president. You win.
> >
> > By recount (in a state where the highest elected official happens to be
> his
> > brother, with months/years preparation before the actual recounts), yes,
> > Dumbya is our president. You win.
> >
> > How does all of this not make Dumbya a complete ass hat for wanting to
> wage
> > war, cutting Education, and increasing defense spending in a time where
> the
> > world couldn't possibly be in a better position for global peace?
> >
> > Adam.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:andy@;omygoodness.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
> > >
> > >
> > > Beth,
> > >
> > > I agree with you. I find it interesting the resounding silence of the
> > > "Stolen Election" camp when asked to discuss the facts.  This
> > > camp seems
> > > much more comfortable name calling then truly discussing the issues.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
> > >
> > >
> > > > Would one of you from the "GW is a court appointed
> > > president" team please
> > > > discuss all of the recounts that have been performed?  How
> > > many would have
> > > > swayed the election if the Supreme Court hadn't interfered.
> > >  Again, I
> > > don't
> > > > remember seeing a single one. So if you can't show a
> > > recount that supports
> > > > your view and there are recounts that support Bush won with
> > > and without
> > > the
> > > > Supremes, are you just avoiding reality?
> > >
> > >
> > > Its not a matter of saying that Bush didnt' win the electoral vote, he
> > > clearly did - its a matter of whether the electoral college
> > > is relevant and
> > > fair.  At the time of the creation of the electoral college
> > > it was created
> > > because the "common man" supposedly didn't have the smarts to vote for
> > > himself so he voted for someone smarter than him to do it.
> > > I personally
> > > find that notion offensive & outdated  and would prefer to
> > > see the president
> > > elected solely on the basis of the public vote.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if there were any other times a president was elected
> > > without winning the popular vote?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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