I don't mind Dubya, that's not a derogatory and disrespectful name whereas
Dumbya is.

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME


> Dubya is not as bad as shrub, though it really gets me laughing when i
hear
> it
> just the picture that comes into head
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
>
>
> > Sorry Adam I just don't like people who don't respect people enough to
> call
> > them by their real name.
> > As much as I didn't like Clinton, I didn't go around calling him Cunton,
> > some such name of that sort.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:57 PM
> > Subject: RE: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
> >
> >
> > > No, it's just a really old/tired debate that has already been beat to
> > death.
> > > Some people feel he was appointed, some people think it was absolutely
> > fair
> > > and square. Since the govt. isn't really going to do anything about
it,
> > most
> > > people are willing to just wait to vote dumbya out of the office
instead
> > of
> > > sitting around for 4 years being unproductive. All I was asking is
what
> > > position would you feel more honorable in - holding the popular vote
and
> > not
> > > being president; or having your brother's state create mass amounts of
> > > scandal/accidents/chads/bullshit which in turn resulted in the court
> > > appointing you president?
> > >
> > > By court decision (4 people sitting in a room twiddling their balls,
> > > wondering how their decision will affect them), yes, Dumbya is our
> > > president. You win.
> > >
> > > By recount (in a state where the highest elected official happens to
be
> > his
> > > brother, with months/years preparation before the actual recounts),
yes,
> > > Dumbya is our president. You win.
> > >
> > > How does all of this not make Dumbya a complete ass hat for wanting to
> > wage
> > > war, cutting Education, and increasing defense spending in a time
where
> > the
> > > world couldn't possibly be in a better position for global peace?
> > >
> > > Adam.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:andy@;omygoodness.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Beth,
> > > >
> > > > I agree with you. I find it interesting the resounding silence of
the
> > > > "Stolen Election" camp when asked to discuss the facts.  This
> > > > camp seems
> > > > much more comfortable name calling then truly discussing the issues.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: CRUISE OF A LIFETIME
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Would one of you from the "GW is a court appointed
> > > > president" team please
> > > > > discuss all of the recounts that have been performed?  How
> > > > many would have
> > > > > swayed the election if the Supreme Court hadn't interfered.
> > > >  Again, I
> > > > don't
> > > > > remember seeing a single one. So if you can't show a
> > > > recount that supports
> > > > > your view and there are recounts that support Bush won with
> > > > and without
> > > > the
> > > > > Supremes, are you just avoiding reality?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Its not a matter of saying that Bush didnt' win the electoral vote,
he
> > > > clearly did - its a matter of whether the electoral college
> > > > is relevant and
> > > > fair.  At the time of the creation of the electoral college
> > > > it was created
> > > > because the "common man" supposedly didn't have the smarts to vote
for
> > > > himself so he voted for someone smarter than him to do it.
> > > > I personally
> > > > find that notion offensive & outdated  and would prefer to
> > > > see the president
> > > > elected solely on the basis of the public vote.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if there were any other times a president was
elected
> > > > without winning the popular vote?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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