What the heck ::Munches on a 1/4 pounder with bacon and cheese:: :) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
Good point Kevin, an additional point to consider, Zoos serve a conservation purpose. For instance, about 15 years ago there were only 18 or so black footed ferrets left in the world. Because of efforts of the National Zoo's Conservation Research Center, and several other zoos, there are now almost 1000. Two years ago there was a significant milestone when there were more black footed ferrets born in the wild than in captivity. So Phoeun what would have happened to this species if we abolished all zoos? Similarly what would happen to Red Pandas, Tigers, etc etc.? larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > Why don't you go to Africa and ask real people who are still > slaves how they > feel. I would much rather champion the abolition of human > slavery before I > worry about removing animals from the zoo. Zoo's offer a > chance to learn > and a change to breed endangered species. Yeah I feel bad > when I see the > bald eagle in the cage where it can't fly, but I enjoy taking > my son to the > zoo where he can see animals that he would never see > otherwise (unless we go > on safari in Africa), some of which if left in the wild would > be hunted by > poachers. I think Zoo's serve a purpose, whether you agree with that > purpose if up to you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:58 AM > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > What about their freedom? Even though they are cared for > and well fed, > they > > still are only allowed what their human masters give them. > Rocks, trees, > > people staring at them. Man if I was a tiger I want to > roam around free. > I > > don't know if animals have these kind of feelings, but if > they do, I hope > > you would disagree with zoos. > > > > THink of it this way. An alien species invades earth. > They are quite > kind. > > They put us in this big Biodome where we can be humans and > do our thing, > > while they study us, drop in a few chicks for us to mate > with so we don't > > have to look, give us our food, does mostly everything for > us. Wonder > what > > it must feel like! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:56 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > First off I am in no way a supporter of any group like PETA or other > radical > > animal rights groups. If anything I am very much against > their agenda. > > > > It also depends on what type of zoo you're talking about. > Many zoos are > > quite good, the state and municipally sponsored zoos, and similar > > organizations like the National Zoo are very active in > conservation, and > > attempt to make the exhibits into an appropriate environment for the > > animals. > > > > Most of the privately run zoos, typically the roadside > attraction kind, > are > > little better than hellholes. The animals are inadequately > housed and fed, > > mistreated and in some cases actually tortured. Frankly > these private zoos > > really should be run out of business. They belong to the > same ignorant > > primitive era as freak shows and dog fighting. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com] > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:27 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > > I disagree, in a zoo the animals are well cared for and they > > > are fed. They > > > aren't put in tiny cages they can't stand up in and aren't > > > intentionally > > > wounded for profit. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:30 PM > > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > > > Yeah it's bad. And it's nothing different from a zoo either. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:31 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's really sad. I am very much against animal cruelty > > > and it makes me > > > > sick to see animals treated that way. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:09 PM > > > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO that's where all the <A > > > > > > > > HREF="http://www.wspa-international.org/news/news-09.html";>BEA > > > R BILE</a> > > > > > goes! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jim Davis [mailto:jim@;depressedpress.com] > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried these. I went to the JellyBelly warehouse that is > > > > > > near my house, > > > > > > and they give free samples within the store. When the woman > > > > > > handed them > > > > > > to me, I assumed that they just had disgusting names, > > > but would taste > > > > > > fine. I was WRONG! I tried half a bite of the > vomit one and > > > > > > spent the > > > > > > next 10 minutes trying to get the taste out of my mouth. > > > > > > After that, I > > > > > > couldn't bring myself to try the booger one, or any of the > > > > > > other flavors. > > > > > > =( > > > > > > > > > > But remember - there's some poor group deep inside > the JellyBelly > > > > > factory that usually gets assignments like "make sure > > > this tastes of > > > > > cherry". For weeks they had to write reports on how close to > > > > > vomit-flavored test jelly beans had become... > > > > > > > > > > "Test Number 142, Batch number 6,405: Closest yet, > > > although it still has > > > > > a marked rotten apple aftertaste. Suggest more digestive > > > acid and less > > > > > fructose. Please kill me." > > > > > > > > > > I think that they earned there pensions right there. And > > > to think, some > > > > > of them probbly complained when "pina colada" was > being tested... > > > > > > > > > > Jim Davis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
