Just for grins, I ran the quake III benchmarks on my work laptop (IBM 
tp, 1.6Ghz) and found out that it can do 185fps in high quality 
@640x480, and 74fps in high quality @1600x1400.  And they say laptops 
can't play games :)

It really puts my desktop system to shame :)

Marlon

William Wheatley wrote:

>I use my dual athy for games
>
>just go out and buy a GForce4 TI4200 card ;)
>
>Even nforce2 is not going to have the top of the line gforce TI cards.
>SO i will just use onboard video when i get an nforce2 board, when they come
>out, for a 2nd monitor.
>
>Dual Tyan board with gforce ti4200 (you can get a lower model card and it
>will still rock but i always have to buy the best :) )
>and 512 of ddr will be the shit ;)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "FlashGuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:09 AM
>Subject: RE: Main/Mother - board Questions
>
>
>  
>
>>What would you guys suggest for a wicked PC for graphics and games?
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:03:20 -0600, Kevin Graeme wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Sorry about the E. Don't feel bad though, I forgot the U in Phoeun's
>>>      
>>>
>name
>  
>
>>>yesterday. And people in the U.S. never seem to know how to spell
>>>      
>>>
>Graeme.
>  
>
>>>I just put together a nForce system for a friend. I share your dislike
>>>      
>>>
>of
>  
>
>>>VIA and was hoping that this would go smoother, but the nForce "unified
>>>drivers" are basically the same thing as the VIA 4in1s except that it's
>>>harder to install just one piece. Great board once I got it all worked
>>>      
>>>
>out,
>  
>
>>>but a lot more work than I expected.
>>>
>>>-Kevin Graeme
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:44 AM
>>>>To: CF-Community
>>>>Subject: Re: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bah its wheatley ;)
>>>>hehe ok though if i had a nickel for every person that forgot that E
>>>>
>>>>naw my current athy doesnt have an AC. Just replaced all the
>>>>stock fans with
>>>>smart fans that run at the rpm needed so alot of the time it is hardly
>>>>        
>>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>>whisper but i do have 8 fans in it counting the 2 CPU fans.
>>>>
>>>>Nice thing about that Tiger board is its not VIA chipset i really hate
>>>>        
>>>>
>AMD
>  
>
>>>>boards with via chipset cause you have to get that stupid Via 4in1
>>>>        
>>>>
>driver
>  
>
>>>>and its really a pain in the ass but that board from Tyan is not
>>>>via so you
>>>>are good to go. That board has given me no problems but i would update
>>>>        
>>>>
>the
>  
>
>>>>bios as soon as you get it and you should be set. It is by far the
>>>>        
>>>>
>most
>  
>
>>>>stable amd board i've seen i used to use this asus k7 board that
>>>>was pretty
>>>>good but this one is by far better in my opnion.
>>>>
>>>>The computer i had with the AC was this old cryotech box i had K7 666
>>>>w/3dnow ;). Was an awesome little box ran its heart out for me and the
>>>>temperature was always -45C becuase of the silicon seal around the cpu
>>>>        
>>>>
>it
>  
>
>>>>was very cool. I really should have overclocked it since that is why i
>>>>        
>>>>
>got
>  
>
>>>>the AC box but it ran pretty good so i didnt want to screw it up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:35 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>What will you be doing with the new box?
>>>>>
>>>>>I ask because modern processors run really, really hot and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>multiprocessor
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>boxes require particular attention to cooling. More cooling
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>typically
>  
>
>>>>means
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>more fans which means more noise. The reason I've avoided going
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>MP for my
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>personal computer is that I don't really want a noisy space heater
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>right
>  
>
>>>>by
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>my legs. Which probably explains why Wheatly has an
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>air-conditioner in his
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>:-)
>>>>>
>>>>>As for Athlon vs Intel, they're both wonderful. I find that the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>Athlon
>  
>
>>>>>systems I've built have all required a little more attention to bios
>>>>>updates, drivers, etc than the Intel systems. That means that an
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>Intel
>  
>
>>>>>system can go together in a day and by two days later I know its
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>stable.
>  
>
>>>>>With the Athlon system, it goes together just as fast, but I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>usually spend
>>>>a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>week with a new motherboard to make sure it's all good.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Kevin Graeme
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:duane@;cfexperts.com]
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:04 AM
>>>>>>To: CF-Community
>>>>>>Subject: RE: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I must admit I am prejudiced towards Intel, but maybe its time to
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>consider
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>Athlon.  OMG, first I start thinking about installing a Linux
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>server,
>  
>
>>>>then
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>an Athlon desktop. WTH is next? *LOL*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Duane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:52 AM
>>>>>>To: CF-Community
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes my Dual MP 2000's are my babies ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dude screw going with Intel unless you get Dual p3's you gotta
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>spring
>  
>
>>>>for
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>xeons and they things are way too overpriced imho.
>>>>>>They have come down alot but in the years i've had dual athys the
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>only
>  
>
>>>>>>problem i've had is Jedi Knight II wouldnt run multiplayer
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>for the first
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>week until they put a patch out because it wouldnt work with DUAL
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>athlons.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>And that board is the same one i have awesome board it rocks and
>>>>>>well worth
>>>>>>the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:42 AM
>>>>>>Subject: RE: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Depends on the OS.  With Win 2K MS has multithreading
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>balanced across
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>browsers.  I have a dual 1.2 gig Dell server that I use to game
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>and
>  
>
>>>>>>everything.  I can track both processors getting equal load across
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>almost
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>all applications, games, server apps, just about everything.
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: FlashGuy [mailto:flashmx@;rogers.com]
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:39 AM
>>>>>>>To: CF-Community
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Main/Mother - board Questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can someone explain the benefits of a dual-processor? What
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>would take
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>advantage of dualies?
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What applications would run faster (Photoshop etc.).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:25:08 -0500, Duane Boudreau wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm thinking its finally time to pass my Dell PIII down
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>the line to
>>>>my
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>daughter. This time I'm going completely custom. Does
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>anyone know of
>>>>a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>main/mother-board that supports 2 Intel PIV processors?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I found this dual athlon MB, but would like to compare to
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>something that
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>supports Intel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.a
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>sp?sku=W45
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>>0-2000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Duane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>
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