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-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Heald 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?


Hehe,
        Again 2 of my favorite authors.

        "highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies"

        As apposed to leftist community based "feel good" socialist drivel?

        Ok, Hubbard should have stuck to being an SF author, and from what I 
understand a lot of the scientology phooey was done after his death, using his name.  
I believe he was actually already dead when Dianetics had that big push back in the 
90s (or was that the 80s).

        Exploitative.  I love that term.  How people think guys like Bill Gates or 
Donald Trump exploit the common working man.  Take the sweat off the collective brow 
of the overworked, underpaid, underappreciated worker.

        Guess what, without the leaders of industry that your statement implies a 
distaste for, millions of those very same workers would be unemployed.  It is men and 
women of greatness, in our free and open society that keep us at the forefront of the 
worlds economy.  I mean seriously, how many of the people on this very list would be 
unemployed if not for M$ and Sun?

        Oh well, guess some people are unable to be swayed.

        There was an experiment in controlled and collective economy, several 
actually, remember the Soviet Union? China has been forced to free at least its 
markets to a significant level, Cuba is a third world hell, as is most of Vietnam.

        I thought we already one this argument in all rational circles, but then maybe 
that's the problem here.

        Any way have a great day.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Avery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:09 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?


hmmm...

well, they were both extremely horrible writers who expouse highly 
exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies.

could be a clue.

brendan heber miscavage iii
church of scientology international
sea organization-2nd lieutenant
humiliation, extortion, and celebrity-welfare division

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:04:24 -0500, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:

> Hmm. L. Ron Hubbard and Ayn Rand the same person? He tackles the SF 
> market and converts them all to scientology. Then, in his spare time 
> under the pseudonym Ayn Rand, he works on the mundanes with his 
> Objectivist ideas.
>
> Discuss ...
>
> Judith



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