> Coding in different languages is not really that much of a plus. > You can do > that in CF too just differently. > For example you can access Web services built in any language from > CF, and > the code you write to do it can't be beat for simplicity.
That's not programming CF in a different language. That's separating logic. If I was a developer using Java, for instance, what's easier to learn? C#, which is a total ripoff of Java, or CF, which has it's own proprietary syntax? > Strong Typing... Doesn't the CFMX Java servlet compare favourably > in this > regard? CF doesn't even have a concept of a null. Having just floating point numbers sucks - hard. I'd love to have, say, some sort of exact number storage for those times when 1.5 must actually equal 1.5. > separating code from presentation - What is exactly better about > this? Is it > simply because the model more or less forces you to do this? And you think it's a _good_ idea to keep your business logic intertwined with your presentation? Yikes! And no, ASP.NET doesn't enforce this. > Server validation controls - interesting but isn't this once again > a matter > of having something pre-built? Yes. So what? EVERYTHING in CF is prebuilt - you're building a C++ program (pre CFMX) or a Java program (CFMX). > Web Controls - I am writing user docs for an app built using these > and they > aren't perfect Yes, but they are. And you can build your own. > Better handling of client state - details please! > Better handling of html forms - what do you mean? Example: things like form state are handled automatically by ASP.NET. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:51 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: RE: Microsoft plots Macromedia coup against Java > > > > > > Why ASP.NET is superior: > > > > You can code in different languages. > > Strong typing. > > Better, more flexible ways of separating code from presentation. > > Server Controls - including real validation controls. > > Web Controls. > > Better handling of client state. > > Better handling of html forms. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:43 am > > Subject: RE: Microsoft plots Macromedia coup against Java > > > > > I've read a lot of people say that ASP.NET is 'far superior' > to > > > CF, but have > > > never really heard their reasoning on feeling that way. I've > > > looked into > > > both with a fairly open mind and couldn't really find anything > > > that made > > > either far superior to each other. CF is still pretty much the > > > same ol' easy > > > scripting language that makes me look really good for the > people I > > > work for, > > > ASP.NET has a lot of new features that seem cool and > convenient, > > > but nothing > > > I would say that has made it far superior. Not trying to start > a > > > flame war, > > > but I was wondering if you could elaborate on your opinion so > I > > > could stop > > > assuming you're just repeating something you've read? Thanks. > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:31 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Microsoft plots Macromedia coup against Java > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think this would pretty well kill ColdFusion. > > > > ASP.NET, imho, is far superior to CF. Not to mention that > MS > > > > would not want to support a server product for something > > > > other than Windows. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:40 am > > > > Subject: Microsoft plots Macromedia coup against Java > > > > > > > > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/28667.html > > > > > > > > > > Microsoft Corp is believed to have trained its acquisition > > > > > crosshairs on Macromedia Inc, lining up a deal that would > > > throw > > > > > enterprise Java into a spin, Gavin Clarke writes. > > > > > Industry and analyst sources believe Microsoft covets San > > > > > Francisco, California-based Macromedia's Flash vector > graphics > > > > > design tool and player, which was radically updated this > year. > > > > > Microsoft's own scripting efforts are regarded as > relatively > > > > > inferior to the cross-platform Flash, which now supports > XML, > > > > > Unicode, MP3 and HTML and which was taken closer towards > Java > > > 2 > > > > > Enterprise Edition (J2EE) in 2002. The Flash Player, > > > meanwhile, is > > > > > compatible with most browsers and used on nearly 90% of > > desktops. > > > > > ... More in the article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Bill Wheatley > > > > > Senior Database Developer > > > > > Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer > > > > > Ediets.com > > > > > ICQ - 417645 > > > > > Aim - Bill Ediets > > > > > 954-749-5013 x159 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5