They were being fired farther than the limit emposed by the UNSC, so
whatever they where. They are banned weapons.

We have been told they were scuds however, but I guess thye might not be
100% yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 March 2003 14:14
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...


Just to come back on this now I;m feeling more awake:

Has it actually been confirmed that they were scuds and not al-samoyd
(sp) missiles?

will

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 March 2003 13:57
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...


Not that I'm trying to defend Saddam here, but to put the shoe on the
other
foot: when Ashcroft declares all private ownership of guns to be
illegal, how many US citizens do you think are going to voluntarily
disarm? And if the ATF comes to invade their homes, how many of those
citizens do you think will use everything they have to fight back?

Same exact situation.

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:01 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> I can't believe what I'm reading, do you seriously mean that or are 
> you winding me up?????
>
> If you're holding a gun and waving it about, and some big police man 
> tells you to put it down while pointing his bigger gun at you, do you 
> keep hold of your gun so you can fight back? Or do you do as you're 
> told and put it down? Anyone with any sense puts his gun down right?
>
> Scuds are banned under several UNSC resolutions, he said he'd 
> destroyed them and didn't have any left etc etc, clearly that's utter 
> bs as he's fired around 10 into Kuwait in the last few days. If he's 
> lied about Scuds, what else is he lying about? Probably an awful lot, 
> and you see that as 'Hardly likely to be a big problem', wtf??? Are 
> you on crack this morning Will?
>
> Don't get me wrong, war is horrific and I'm seriously concerned about 
> the timing of the action, perhaps in a few months after the weapons 
> inspectors realised for sure that Saddam was lying, the whole 
> international community would have been behind it, but there is no 
> doubt in my mind that sooner or later this was necessary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:42
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Not really. I find it incredible that anyone seriously thought he 
> would disarm. Would you, with an aggresive force sitting on your 
> doorstep? That's like saying, how far do you want me to bend over.
>
> So he has a few scuds? Hardly likely to be a big problem, and lets be 
> honest, if we weren't invading him we'd never know about them.....
>
> will
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:34
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Hmm, that wasn't the point was it?
>
> Point is, he's using weapons only hours bfore he swore he didn't have,

> extra proof of what kind of man he is, or was (hopefully), and of why 
> he needs to be dealt with.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:32
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Nope....you don't kick a dog and then complain when it bites you.
>
> will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:09
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Has your opinion now changed at all since Saddam has used 'banned' 
> scud missiles that he promised he didn't have?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 02:27
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Candace, et al.
>
> Our Prime Minister is a horrible, xenophobic man whose driving policy 
> dictate is to be as sycophantic as possible to his masters in the 
> White House. Popular support for a war on Iraq without explicit, 
> non-vetoed UN approval is virtually non-existent here, and through his

> actions, PM Howard has made Australia an aggressor rogue state, and 
> therefore no better than the despotic regime in Iraq itself. Today, I 
> am ashamed to be an Australian.  I am ashamed for Australia, the US 
> and the UK.  I can only hope that the full force of UN sanctions and 
> International Criminal Court charges are brought heavily upon those in

> power here and in other countries who are a part of the so-called 
> "coalition of the willing".
>
> Not this war
> Not in my name
> Not without UNSC approval
>
> Steve Collins (www.stephencollins.org)
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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