that was my original point.

will

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 March 2003 16:28
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...


Yet another example of how moderates are dealt with.

Take a moderate position, compare it to racism (or Hitler) and claim to
have syntactically reduced it to an extreme viewpoint.  The moderate
viewpoint is thus effectively marginalized and can be safely ignored as
ridiculous extremism.

Jim Davis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Same way as when someone says I"m not a racist but
> ...<cf_Example>black people are stupid</cf_example>. News
> Flash you are a racist if you think thats true lol but
> prefacing what you say with a disclaimer is just Bullshit lol.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:32 AM
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> isn;t it interesting though, that when one makes a point that
> isn;t 100% supportive of the current action one feels the
> need to preceed it with "I'm not taking Saddams side but...."
>
> Know what I mean?
>
> will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 14:26
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Since when are we the police?
>
> Not that I'm taking Saddam's side, that's just a bad metaphor.
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:01 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> I can't believe what I'm reading, do you seriously mean that
> or are you winding me up?????
>
> If you're holding a gun and waving it about, and some big
> police man tells you to put it down while pointing his bigger
> gun at you, do you keep hold of your gun so you can fight
> back? Or do you do as you're told and put it down? Anyone
> with any sense puts his gun down right?
>
> Scuds are banned under several UNSC resolutions, he said he'd
> destroyed them and didn't have any left etc etc, clearly
> that's utter bs as he's fired around 10 into Kuwait in the
> last few days. If he's lied about Scuds, what else is he
> lying about? Probably an awful lot, and you see that as
> 'Hardly likely to be a big problem', wtf??? Are you on crack
> this morning Will?
>
> Don't get me wrong, war is horrific and I'm seriously
> concerned about the timing of the action, perhaps in a few
> months after the weapons inspectors realised for sure that
> Saddam was lying, the whole international community would
> have been behind it, but there is no doubt in my mind that
> sooner or later this was necessary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:42
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Not really. I find it incredible that anyone seriously
> thought he would disarm. Would you, with an aggresive force
> sitting on your doorstep? That's like saying, how far do you
> want me to bend over.
>
> So he has a few scuds? Hardly likely to be a big problem, and
> lets be honest, if we weren't invading him we'd never know
> about them.....
>
> will
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:34
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Hmm, that wasn't the point was it?
>
> Point is, he's using weapons only hours bfore he swore he
> didn't have, extra proof of what kind of man he is, or was
> (hopefully), and of why he needs to be dealt with.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:32
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Nope....you don't kick a dog and then complain when it bites you.
>
> will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 09:09
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Has your opinion now changed at all since Saddam has used
> 'banned' scud missiles that he promised he didn't have?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 March 2003 02:27
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Prime Minister's Address to the Nation...
>
>
> Candace, et al.
>
> Our Prime Minister is a horrible, xenophobic man whose
> driving policy dictate is to be as sycophantic as possible to
> his masters in the White House. Popular support for a war on
> Iraq without explicit, non-vetoed UN approval is virtually
> non-existent here, and through his actions, PM Howard has
> made Australia an aggressor rogue state, and therefore no
> better than the despotic regime in Iraq itself. Today, I am
> ashamed to be an Australian. I am ashamed for Australia, the
> US and the UK.  I can only hope that the full force of UN
> sanctions and International Criminal Court charges are
> brought heavily upon those in power here and in other
> countries who are a part of the so-called "coalition of the willing".
>
> Not this war
> Not in my name
> Not without UNSC approval
>
> Steve Collins (www.stephencollins.org)
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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