Mike,
  I completely agree with your statements about missionaries but do want to
point out that, though the definitely have alterior motives, missionaries do
tend to bring with them the tools to help people better their standard of
living (schools, hospitals, food, etc.).  Like I said, it's a shame they
don't bring this help to people selflessly (not very christian of them
really, is it?) but it is still help and the people who receive this help
appreciate it.  I'm always amused to see how the missionaries have
influenced India when I am there.  Basivcally, the majority of the
population is Muslim or Hindu, but in many of the poor rural villages
(mostly in the South) missionaries have converted the villagers.  What I
find amusing is that most of these villagers still aren't very well educated
at all (they cannot read or write any language) and don't even know anything
about Christianity.  They wear crosses if they have them, and they go to
church every Sunday.  Church for them in large part is really just an excuse
to get together and socialize... and if you ask them een the most basic
trivia about Jesus, they don't have a clue.  Either the missionaries are
doing a piss-poor job educating these people, or they're intentionally just
taking advantage of the missionaries that visit in order to get what they
want from them.  I like the idea of missionaries walking around claiming to
have converted so man people, and so many people walking around caring none
about their supposed religion but with a full belly and some innoculations.
Of course this doesn't apply to every scenario, but it is a very common
scene there.

~Simon

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Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Christian vs. Muslim


On one hand I hate missionary scum. I think they should all be hung by their
gentiles until they decide to leave other peoples religions alone. On the
other
hand, sending missionaries to Iraq will simply lend more credence to the
Arabs
propaganda that this is another crusade. On the third hand, I say let them
go.
When the local populace kills them for trying to convert them then maybe
they'll
get a clue.
Please note that the above is due to my extreme dislike of missionaries,
many of
whom have it as their personal mission to convert my people to another
religion.
I'm not going into whose religion is right or anything in that area. I just
don't think that people should be going around saying "worship MY God, yours
is
wrong" or "worship the one God MY way as yours is wrong" or any way they
want to
say it.
As for the members of the community that are missionaries, they have never
tried
to convert me in any way, shape, or form and I have not tried to remove
their
faith through debate. It's a nice balance. :)


> I heard something interesting on NPR today.  Samaritan's Purse, a
> christian charity run by Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, will be
> sending missionaries to Iraq.  Unfortunately Franlkin has been very
> outspoken against the muslim religion.  So how will the affect the
> perception that this work is about christians vs muslims, a viewpoint
> held by a some muslim leaders.  Should we restrict who can go in there
> during this time?
>
> Marlon
>
>
> 

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