*cough* Opera
"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" ----- Original Message ----- From: "SMR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: Re: IE6 is the new NS4 > what do you mean "IE is no longer free" ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: IE6 is the new NS4 > > > > I'm sure that's similar everyone thought 4 years ago when NS4 was > > orphaned for Mozilla. At least it's better than IE3 and NS3... > > > > The problem is that we have already had IE6 for a while now, and the > > whole industry has been stuck waiting for them to fix some crucial > > bugs (hopelessly broken box model anyone?) that are creating huge > > obstacles to progress. Now we have to wait much longer for every IE > > user on earth to upgrade beyond XP. Do you really think that every > > Windows user is going to upgrade in the next 5 years? > > > > What it comes down to is the fact that IE is no longer free. Kill the > > competition then raise prices, and we as web developers are going to > > be paying for it for the forseeable future. I don't know about you, > > but developing for a platform that isn't progressing is not where I > > want to be. > > > > -- > > jon > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Tuesday, June 3, 2003, 10:11:58 AM, you wrote: > > JD> Well, if we are stuck with developing in a browser for 5 years (I > doubt > > JD> it) then it's a hell of a lot better to be stuck with IE 6 than with > > JD> Netscape 4. > > > > JD> At least in my opinion. > > > > JD> Jim Davis > > JD> President, http://www.depressedpress.com > > JD> Webmaster, http://www.firstnight.org > > JD> Webmaster, http://www.cfAdvocacy.org > > JD> Senior Consultant, http://www.metlife.com > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:06 AM > > >> To: CF-Community > > >> Subject: IE6 is the new NS4 > > >> > > >> http://www.web-graphics.com/mtarchive/000881.php > > >> > > >> I've finally gotten around to reading all the analysis of all the big > > >> news last week about IE, and my first response is to hate Microsoft > > >> and their buggy browser, and my second is to perhaps I should resign > > >> myself to fealty to the Microsoft empire. This is so similar to > > >> when Netscape killed NS4 it's scary. Web developers were stuck > > >> developing for an incredibly buggy browser for years after it was end > > >> of lifed. > > >> > > >> Thankfully, since the announcement of Royale, I've started a low-level > > JD> PR > > >> campaign for Flash here at work and it's working. We have been pretty > > >> Flash resistant in the past, but I'd rather develop for Flash than get > > >> stuck developing for IE6 for the forseeable future. I just hope Royale > > >> is all it's cracked up to be... > > >> > > >> -- > > >> jon > > >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > JD> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
