"It takes much more bravery to resist peacefully when every temptation is to strike out."
That's a stale crappy line and one that totally is not true when the enemy is firing bullets past your head. The easy thing to do is get up and hide, or never go in the first place. I believe that there are some pacifists in this world, but the majority are scared of war (think the GW1 conscientious objectors crawling out of the military woodwork), and it's not braver to be one than to fight when the fighting is called for. Somebody's got to stop atrocity, otherwise there wouldn't be a world for anybody to live in. Matthew Small IT Director Showstopper American Dance Championships [EMAIL PROTECTED] 843-357-1847 -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: A good american Really? Given that what I have seen of pacifists, one cannot consider them cowards. If anything a genuine pacifist is no coward. It takes much more bravery to resist peacefully when every temptation is to strike out. Second I am not a mennonite or buddist. Have have known both. A good friend of mine is in Peru working on a development project for the Mennonites. When the Shining Path was kidnapping and killing people, the Mennonites peacefully stood up to them. Its easy to shoot a firearm. Its far more difficult to peacefully resist when you know you will most likely get shot or killed because of it. That is not cowardice but bravery of the highest level. At 11:45 AM 6/11/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote: >Pacifism = COWARD (English translation) > >Are you a Mennonite? If so feel free to run to another country more >sympathetic to your views. Time to stop being a parasite on a freedom >loving, >Patriotic Nation! > >Are you Buddhist? The Buddhists are indeed warriors, believing that to have >honorably conquered your enemy to have achieved Nirvana! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:31 AM >Subject: Re: A good american > > >| Bull Shit. >| >| What about Buddhism? >| >| Moreover look at the history of pacifism and the Mennonites. They left >| Germany and Russia and came to North America because of conscription >| issues. Learn your history a bit more >| >| At 11:09 AM 6/11/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote: >| >Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them "Cowards" >| >There is no recognized religion that opposes war, none at all. In fact all >of >| >them have a history of oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to >| >keep >| >the faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and >deception. >| >There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict, only cowardice. Genuine >| >Conscientious Objectors are nothing more than cowards, and as such are >| >parasitic >| >upon legitimate government and its loyal people. They should all be either >| >exported or executed. >| > >| >You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King. and are >| >completely wrong about the Mennonites. >| > >| >But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry will bear arms >to >| >defend your rights and constitutional protections, as well as permitting >| >you to >| >espouse your lies and deceptions. >| > >| > >| >====================================== >| >Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! >| >For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com >| >ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 >| >====================================== >| >If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! >| > >| >----- Original Message ----- >| >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM >| >Subject: RE: A good american >| > >| > >| >| So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a sincere, >religious >| >| or otherwise, conviction that serving in the military is wrong. Its great >| >| to know that there are those who would gladly persecute others based on >| >| their beliefs. Genuine conscientious objectors would fall under your >| >| rubric. People like Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have >| >| those beliefs. There are other groups like the Mennonites who also have >| >| very strong religious beliefs against serving in the military. >| >| >| >| Such ignorance is appalling. >| >| >| >| larry >| >| >| > >| > >| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
