First choice now force :)  Two of my personal favorite topics.  As we take a
way choice, we increase our use, or threat to use force.  This is where we
are headed.  When you or I force our kids to do something, it's usually
under threat of time out or maybe a spanking.  When the government forces
someone to do something it's under force of violence or prolonged
incarceration.  Make no mistake, every law we have is enforced at the barrel
of a gun.  This is why I am so against the idea of big government.  As we
increase the personal tax burden we as a society become nothing more then
armed thieves, living off of what we steal from the productive and the
ambitious.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:22 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: all slashbots are idiots.


> The idea of the copyright originally was as follows. The 
> creations produced here in the USA should be used for the 
> betterment of mankind. Therefore, all things should end in 
> the public domain. But the creator should get some say in how 
> and where it is used. So we give the creator an exclusive 
> right for a good length of time. But once the creator dies, 
> it should go back int other public domain.
> 

Please note that I am not debating the original intent. I am simply
saying I disagree that it is best. I am in NO way nearly as smart as the
founding fathers. But who knows, maybe I'm right. ;) (Although I know
most here disagree with me, but that's ok. :)

> But they keep extending the dates. So items that head 
> actually passed into the public domain have now been taken 
> back out. What's to keep some 33rd nephew of Mozart from 
> regaining copyright over all his sheet music? Apparently 
> nothing but enough money to buy enough congressmen.

This I disagree with. If the law said you had N years, then you should
not be able to extend it AND have it apply to current works, it should
only apply to new works. It's kind of like a social contract. While I
disagree that your content should 'expire', I do think that if you
_know_ the law is N years and you release your work, then you are
implictely agreeing to a "social contract" if you will between you and
society.

> The world would not be the place it currently is if our 
> culture and soul was hijacked by corporations (who are 
> demonstrably without one). 

Again, I ask you, who has forced the animator to sell Mickey Mouse to
Disney? Who forced Britney to work with... um whatever company she works
with. No one. Hijacking also goes the other way. What if I'm the aritst
and I don't want to give up my work. Aren't you hijacking it from me
then?

> I can see we will never agree on this one, but I personally 
> am thankful that my grandparents weren't so gosh darn greedy, 
> and didn't steal my cultural heritage and hide it in a drawer 
> behind a security guard and cash register. My grandkids are 
> not going to be so lucky.

That's wonderful that your grandparents chose to not be so greedy. Maybe
your kids will make the same choice. But I'm not about to force them to
be nice.

-rc


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