Sorry misunderstood. I thought Isaac wanted to go back to a pre agricultural state. My bad.
larry At 08:19 PM 8/6/2003 +0000, Dana Tierney wrote: >I agree but most adults who like the idea dont manage to implement... bit >much to expect of children > >s. isaac dealey writes: > > > I suppose ultimately that I don't understand why people can't grow > their own food -- or just live tribally, you know, hunter/gatherer -- > with the possible exception of being on a small island where every square > meter of land belongs to someone who's unwilling to share in which case > my answer is to ration the land and/or provide those without any > transportation to someplace else... > > > > I don't think personally that I'd like to go back to an entirely > pre-agricultural state, because I suspect it's a lot easier to get by and > have food if you grow it intentionally, but, the fact that we're still > here at all is absolute proof that it can be done if necessary. In some > ways growing your own food is even better than having it grown by large > corporate agro-businesses and shipped hundreds or thousands of miles to > the grocery in big diesel trucks. Personally I'd really like to go back > to living communally and growing our own food at least for myself, > although I don't expect everyone to do that. I certainly think that would > be a step up from a sweat shop. > > > > Isaac > > > > Original Message ----------------------- > > If the alternative is starvation most people are willing to work. Be nice > > if children didnt have to face that choice. > > > > William Wheatley writes: > > > > > Play devils advocate what about the kids who have to have a job and > money in > > > order to survive for whatever reason? > > > > > > I was listening to a piece on npr where a kid was saying (via translator) > > > how he needed to work. When the inspector (or whatever the proper > title is) > > > tried to shut the place down he fired the underage kid who was then > screwed > > > since they didn't have the money to pay for food and such. They also > talked > > > about child labor unions so the kids could make good $$. If there is > nothing > > > else for a child to do and they have to work why should we hold the > > > children, who WILLINGLY want to work , back and limit them. There is no > > > social security in those countries no foster care what would become > of them > > > if they were unable to work and provide for themselves. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "s. isaac dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:31 PM > > > Subject: RE: RE: What would you do if you won PowerBall? > > > > > > > > > > How about buying the Gap (or some other large US-grown corp) and > forcing > > > them to stop actively contributing to sweat shops in third world > countries? > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=area+code+map > > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/archive/970385.stm > > > > > > > > Isaac > > > > > > > > Original Message ----------------------- > > > > OK then I started this so here is mine. > > > > > > > > In no particular order (most likely all at once) > > > > > > > > - I would open an account for my grandmother to do with what she > wants as > > > > she has supported me (bailed me out) for most of my life. > > > > - Buy a house on an island and retire with my friends and family > > > > - Maybe a mountain retreat somewhere with a huge telescope > > > > - Visit the Great Wall of China > > > > - Pay the Russians a million dollars to take me to space (maybe :)) > > > > - College for my kids (this includes some friends kids) > > > > - I would like to buy a huge piece of the rain forest that I will never > > > burn > > > > or run off the natives. > > > > - Buy Old Navy and force them to carry cloths for everyone. > > > > > > > > There is probably more. > > > > > > > > Rick Eidson > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:42 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: What would you do if you won PowerBall? > > > > > > > > off the top, in no particular order: > > > > > > > > - keep working until I can pass knowledge on to a successor > > > > - fix up the house, just the way we want it > > > > (it's "home", so don't want to move to another place, maybe just > expand) > > > > - buy homes for kids, relatives, friends, so they always have a > roof over > > > > - donate enough money to a particular charitable org (one my Mom worked > > > > with) > > > > for them to build a school with her name on it > > > > - build a homeless shelter w/ job training center > > > > - open a company to hire the successful grads of the job center > > > > - build an apartment complex to house the workers > > > > - travel, travel, travel > > > > - study > > > > - volunteer > > > > - pray > > > > - get really physically fit > > > > - watch videos > > > > - sleep late sometimes, then start the day by making love > > > > instead of waking up early to go to work > > > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2382747/detail.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
