now. I count myself fortunate for finding an employer that supported the
idea of hiring something with initiative and letting me learn on the job.
That's the way my dad made it into IT when he was younger (he ended his
career as a VP of manufacturing for Cray Computers). But, you're probaby
right that as the web world gets more and more "established" future
generations won't be so lucky.
-d
----- Original Message -----
From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: CF Salary Range
> so, then those of us with degrees in something other than CS degrees (I
> happen to hold a BFA in Graphic Design and Illustration) would be
> essentially SOL? I've been designing and building web sites since 1995,
> first in straight HTML then server-side JS and now in CF. I can program
> circles around CS degreed folks that are my friends and collegues.
> Doesn't/Won't that count for anything anymore? Sure as hell glad it did
> for me...
>
>
>
> Jeffry Houser wrote:
>
> > I'll agree that w/o education / degrees my brothers would not have
> > engineering jobs.
> >
> > You are saying is that a degree would constitute a designation? I can
> > respect that. I suspect over time the industry will force such a
> > thing on
> > itself as employers stop hiring people w/o CS degrees.
> >
> >
> > At 06:05 PM 9/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Subject: CF Salary Range
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:33:21 -0600
> > >Thread:
> >
>http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=98
58&forumid=5#90339
> >
<http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=98
58&forumid=5#90339>
> > >
> > >Yes, in the old days, designations were not required for accounting.
To
> > >progress beyond a certain level (and pay), these days at least some
sort
> > >of designation is all but required. Not to mention that no one
> > becomes an
> > >Accountant by picking up a book and declaring themselves an
> > >Accountant. This kind of scheme would work well in the IT world.
> > >
> > >As for your 'geer brothers, see if they would have their jobs without
> > >their education. That would be their "designation", as it were.
> > >
> > >Doesn't anyone find it weird that it's IT jobs that get moved, and not
> > >engineering/doctor/accounting jobs (or, at least to a lesser
> > >degree)? Perhaps companies don't know how valuable IT people are,
think
> > >that we're totally interchangable (which we're not) and don't have a
> > good
> > >handle on what quality and kinds of work a specific person can provide?
> >
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