I've had a few childfree friends who have had the procedure done and
told me about it.  In short, don't worry - there are no knives.  They
use lasers now, and you see smoke billowing from down there during the
procedure.  En fuego!

- Jim

Andy Ousterhout wrote:

>NO KNIVES DOWN THERE.  PERIOD.
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:33 AM
>  To: CF-Community
>  Subject: RE: Having kids (was RE: Exploring Frugality)
>
>
>  vasectomy.......
>
>
>  Look into it :)
>
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:31 AM
>  To: CF-Community
>  Subject: RE: Having kids (was RE: Exploring Frugality)
>
>  > Wouldn't you be a bit hostile if someone implied that your decisions
>  > about your life were less than ideal or somehow unacceptable?
>
>  I had that on a board I visit
>
>  There was a question raised about homosexuals raising somebody - would a
>  gay couple be good parents...
>
>  Well, someone went off and posted that a child MUST have a Father and a
>  Mother, otherwise it can't have a happy upbringing
>
>  This REALLY got my back up - I grew up without a father (he walked out
>  before I was born) - raised by my mother (who was working full time) and
>  my grand-mother (who worked part time)
>
>  I never had a father figure, and never regretted not having one - esp
>  having seen some of my friends come to school bruised, because their
>  father had gotten drink and hit them when they did something dumb
>
>  Anyways, after my little "rant" on the subject, he completely went into
>  hiding <g>
>
>  So, trying to give "opressive" views on a subject - as YOU see how life
>  should be is rather annoying to those of us who believe the complete
>  opposite
>
>  Back on topic...
>  In a way, I'm actually "scared" of having children, in case I turn out
>  like my father, and just walk away - in fact, I know I'd just walk away!
>
>  I've NEVER wanted children, I absolutely hate the concept of a child
>  needing for you 24 hours a day... This is why we have pets - they look
>  after themselves most of the time, and only need feeding once a day,
>  letting out several times a day, and then we give them love which they
>  return... That's it!
>
>  I also can't see it when people say "Oh, isn't that baby beautiful" -
>  NO! It looks like a little Winston Churchill!
>
>  There - I've had my say <g>
>    _____
>
>
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