One word, welfare.

Its a lot cheaper to educate the kid now so that he or she has some
hope of supporting themselves rather than supporting that kid all of
his or her life in some back ward, or some prison.

Either you pay a bit now or you pay a hell of a lot more later.

Your choice.

larry

>Having two healthy kids this is fine by me. Why?
>
>My healthy children will not lose resources I want spent on them to other
>children.  Additionally I will not have to support the increased financial
>and personal needs of someone's disabled kid.  Not my kid, not my problem.
>
>--
>Timothy Heald
>Web Portfolio Manager
>Overseas Security Advisory Council
>U.S. Department of State
>571.345.2319
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:05 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: More Breaking News
>
>
>Try an experiment. Start calling up private schools in your area and
>see how many accept special needs kids. Now try the same with public
>schools.
>
>I'm willing to bet that only a very small minority of private schools
>will accept a kid with cerebral palsy or ADHD, while all the public
>schools will accept that kid. That makes a profound difference on the
>resources that can be allocated to a kid.
>
>By law public schools have, I repeat HAVE, to accept all children
>regardless of their condition. Private schools can discriminate all
>they want.
>
>larry
>
>>How is the question disingenuous? If you have a child you already know if
>>they have special needs. So in your search for a school public or private
>>that would already be a consideration. The question still stands, would you
>>rather personally send your children to a public or private school. This
>>question assumes the parents have enough common sense to know if their
>>children have a disability or special needs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephen E. Schuster
>>PeopleSoft Administrator
>>2000 Ashland Drive
>>Ashland, KY 41101
>>
>>
>>Office Phone 606.920.7447
>>Cell Phone 606.831.4590
>>
>>
>>    _____
>>
>>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:13 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: RE: More Breaking News
>>
>>Your question is being disingenuous. Are the schools equal in all aspects,
>>do they take all children, those with behavior /emotional problems, those
>>with learning disabilities, and what about those with handicaps. Unless you
>>can equate them in all cases its an unfair comparison. When you compare
>>public and private schools, you have to look at everything. AS I've
>>mentioned before in the past there is a huge dataset (over 20,000 students
>>- see the NORC 2000 and Beyond dataset) where children were followed
>>throughout their school career. On the average students from private
>>schools did not do any better than those who received a public education.
>>All too often the differences that were found were in how the students were
>>culled from the private system, so that fairly rapidly the only ones left
>>were those who did not need the extra help or tutoring, or 2nd language
>>instruction etc.
>>
>>larry
>>
>>At 11:00 AM 1/7/2004, you wrote:
>>>Honestly, would you rather your child go to public or private school?
>>>
>>>I did a little sample here at the office (15 people in this Dept.), so far
>>>all 15 said if they had the choice they would send them to Private
>schools.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Stephen E. Schuster
>>>PeopleSoft Administrator
>>>2000 Ashland Drive
>>>Ashland, KY 41101
>>>
>>>
>>>Office Phone 606.920.7447
>>>Cell Phone 606.831.4590
>>>
>>>
>>>     _____
>>>
>>>From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:45 AM
>>>To: CF-Community
>>>Subject: Re: More Breaking News
>>>
>>>Heald, Tim wrote:
>  >>
>>>   >Also don't get me wrong, I didn't say I am against all taxes.  I know
>we
>>>   >need taxes for defense and law enforcement. Now roads, education and
>>other
>>>   >services should all be handled at a state level, or as in the case of
>the
>>>   >postal service, privately.  In many cases I think we should move much
>>more
>>>   >aggressively towards toll roads supported by those that actually use
>>them,
>>>   >education that PARENTS want for their children, and by lowering the tax
>>>   >burden n parents I can assure you that parents are not going to choose
>>the
>>>   >garbage schools that we have now.  Why not privatize all schools?
>>>   >
>>>   >
>>>   >
>>>   >
>>>That's a great idea.  Privatize schools. That way only the people who
>>>can afford it get to go.  If we educate the poor, they're only going to
>>>try to take away our jobs.
>>>
>>>--
>>>marlon
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>     _____
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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