Since both projects I did with them were disasters; I don't have any code
worth re-distributing.
  However, I know they did a lot of sub-contracting work ( One of the
projects they sub-contracted out to me; so I was about 4 times removed from
the end client).

  I will have to find out if I can legally (and/or ethically) contact the
firm directly.

At 07:05 AM 1/28/2004, you wrote:
> >From an ethical viewpoint (and possibly a legal one, I am not a
> lawyer)   The
>non-compete would be moot, because there is noone to be in competition with.
>
>On the other hand, if your agreement passed exclusive license of the code,
>then
>you would still be bound to not re-distributing or re-using that code without
>license from the owner.
>
>A rather far out example of this is the case of SCO who has failed in their
>regular line of business of selling UNIX, and instead has re-distributed their
>stock to law firms and it appears their new business plan is to make a
>living on
>litigation and trying to extort license fees from the Linux community
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>To: "CF-Jobs-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:22 AM
>Subject: RE: A local company is going out of business...
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>: I would think going out of business clears you of any non-competes for sure.
>:
>: No competition if they don't exist. I would think (but not sure) even if
>: he's running it from his bedroom it wouldn't count but who knows
>:
>:
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>: From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:58 AM
>: To: CF-Jobs-Talk
>: Subject: A local company is going out of business...
>:
>:
>: A local development company is "Closing its doors."  Two programmers were
>: changed to independent contractor status to finish one big project for a
>: client, but everyone else was let go.  The company wasn't a big one (5-6
>: people), but it is still sad to see it go.
>:
>:   My company done some work for them as a subcontractor in the past (all
>: past projects were disasters).  How would I verify that the company is
>: truly "out of business" and not just "The owner firing everyone and moving
>: into a home office."?  If the company is gone, I suppose I would be
>: released from any non-compete agreements.
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