In addition to combining together traditional Agreements, also look out for the non-compete clause with long duration, like one or more years. Then, after getting paid for say a couple of week's worth of work, the contract terminates for whatever reason, and you can't enter into a real business agreement with the client without their "written consent."
-----Original Message----- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:53 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Non Disclosure Agreements IP means Intellectual property, right? As far as I'm concerned, my mind and ideas are the most important asset to my consulting practice. Signing that over is something I wouldn't do. I think I have agreed to IP terms that restrict it to the "development" in question. If they are hiring me to build widgets, and want all my ideas that relate specifically to those widgets, I'm usually fine with that (depending on the wording). At 08:40 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote: >I suppose its what's in the NDA that matters... where have worked >before they wanted us to sign contracts which included NDA and IP >agreements... I wouldnt sign them, not because of the contract or NDA >(as these seemed fairly straightforward) it was the IP one that I >wouldnt touch... they were to own all rights to anything i'd done, did >and would do, be it job related or not... but as the contract stated >that signing it meant you'd signed the other two documents I couldn't > > >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:27:37 -0500, Fred T. Sanders ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've never actually worked for a programming shop that didn't require one. > > To me at least its actually an assumed job requirement. Of course > lately it > > seems that NDA's now have traditional Employment Agreements combined > > together, (those are the ones that tend to sound like your selling your > soul > > and signing in blood). > > > > Fred > > > > On March 28, 2005 04:41 pm, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:18 -0500, Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > From a recent post on cf-jobs: > > > > > Anyone who refuses to work under a Non-Disclosure Agreement need not > > > > > apply. > > > > > > Taken totally out of context, I'd usually translate soemthing like > > > this as "Our company is run by a buncha stodgy CPAs and Lawyers. If > > > you like so much red tape that it's impossible to get anything done, > > > come work for us." > > > > > > Of course, with context it could mean something entirely different to > > > me. There are several very valid reasons for this to be a requirement > > > for a job. > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2336 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54