You could outsource the spot? Probally cost you 1k per month for a guy
in India.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:48 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?


Like I said earlier, probably most people who work in Manhattan don't
live in Manhattan - there is easy commute from NJ and surrounding NY
boros which are a lot more reasonable when it comes to cost of living.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:43 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?

I'm MIDish level(2 years in offices + 3 years as hobby/consulting) and
50k would not get me to move to NY heck depending on benifits I may not
even consider telecommuting for 50k..... I would think 50k in NY for
midlevel sounds rather low but maybe I am off...I would expect atleast
55k maybe more depending on cost of living in neihboring cities I looked
at Cost of living in Manhatten and its saying I would have to expect
atleast $70k to consider......

A friend of mine was a manager at Best Buy (mid level store) in Ohio and
made 45k + bonuses which ussually got him to 50k by the end of the year.
However if you figured his hourly wage it was pretty low b/c he ussually
averaged 50-55 hours /week.

Adam H 

On 4/29/05, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a very senior
> > developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
> >
> > A mid level J2EE developer makes 100K+ easy in SF where the cost of 
> > living is less than in NY... where do you think all the CF 
> > developers went?
> >
> > I am a senior developer and I find 60K rather insulting - Fast food 
> > restaurant managers make more than that. If you can get a senior 
> > developer for 60K I'd say grab him/her.
> >
> > (PS not to start an up roar - look at the cost of living in your 
> > area before you start demanding higher salary)
> >
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> > http://treebeard.sourceforge.
> net
> 
> Fast food managers earn more than $60k/yr?  I don't think that is 
> anywhere
near true.
> 
> I used to know someone who worked assistance manager at Mcdonalds for
$8/hr, although that was a couple years ago, I doubt managers earn so
much more than that.
> 
> 





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