That's crazy, the cost of running one of those vessels just can't be cost 
effective.

Fred

On Friday 29 April 2005 16:10, Aaron Rouse wrote:
> Maybe they could put a ship out off the coast near NYC
>  http://www.sea-code.com/
>
>  On 4/29/05, Kristopher Pilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You could outsource the spot? Probally cost you 1k per month for a guy
> > in India.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:48 PM
> > To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?
> >
> > Like I said earlier, probably most people who work in Manhattan don't
> > live in Manhattan - there is easy commute from NJ and surrounding NY
> > boros which are a lot more reasonable when it comes to cost of living.
> >
> > ecommerce partners, inc.
> > Daniel Brown
> > ECommerce Partners
> > 59 Franklin Street
> > New York N.Y 10013
> > T 212-334-3390
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.ecommercepartners.net <http://www.ecommercepartners.net>
> > www.7Designers.com <http://www.7Designers.com>
> > Directions to our office
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:43 PM
> > To: CF-Jobs-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?
> >
> > I'm MIDish level(2 years in offices + 3 years as hobby/consulting) and
> > 50k would not get me to move to NY heck depending on benifits I may not
> > even consider telecommuting for 50k..... I would think 50k in NY for
> > midlevel sounds rather low but maybe I am off...I would expect atleast
> > 55k maybe more depending on cost of living in neihboring cities I looked
> > at Cost of living in Manhatten and its saying I would have to expect
> > atleast $70k to consider......
> >
> > A friend of mine was a manager at Best Buy (mid level store) in Ohio and
> > made 45k + bonuses which ussually got him to 50k by the end of the year.
> > However if you figured his hourly wage it was pretty low b/c he ussually
> > averaged 50-55 hours /week.
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> > On 4/29/05, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a very senior
> > > >
> > > > developers (which seem to be easier to find too!).
> > > >
> > > > A mid level J2EE developer makes 100K+ easy in SF where the cost of
> > > > living is less than in NY... where do you think all the CF
> > > > developers went?
> > > >
> > > > I am a senior developer and I find 60K rather insulting - Fast food
> > > > restaurant managers make more than that. If you can get a senior
> > > > developer for 60K I'd say grab him/her.
> > > >
> > > > (PS not to start an up roar - look at the cost of living in your
> > > > area before you start demanding higher salary)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ~Blog~
> > > > http://www.robrohan.com
> > > > ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~
> > > > http://cfeclipse.tigris.org
> > > > ~open source xslt IDE~
> > > > http://treebeard.sourceforge.
> > >
> > > net
> > >
> > > Fast food managers earn more than $60k/yr? I don't think that is
> > > anywhere
> >
> > near true.
> >
> > > I used to know someone who worked assistance manager at Mcdonalds for
> >
> > $8/hr, although that was a couple years ago, I doubt managers earn so
> > much more than that.
>
> 

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