"I own a 4,000 square foot house in the Dallas Fort Worth area for $200k"

And in Los Angeles.. that would be over $1 million.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:23 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?

I agree with this.  Also, many more developers are able to work remotely and
live in 'less expensive' areas but still work for companies where the cost
of living is higher.  I have a contract with a Fortune 500 company based in
Arkansas, my manager is in Pennsylvania, and I live and work from my home
office in Texas.  It's a regular 40 hour a week contract position, they just
don't require to be on site.  If they required me to be on site in
Pennsylvania, there's no way I would take the contract. I own a 4,000 square
foot house in the Dallas Fort Worth area for $200k but in Pennsylvania, that
would cost a minimum of $600k (if I'm lucky).  

I suggest finding a way to hire EXPERIENCED remote employees.  This will
expand your base of potential talent, and if you get someone experienced,
you have a better chance of not hiring someone who 'abuses' the opportunity
to work remotely, but instead, is actually more productive because they're
not always dealing with 'working in the office' issues such as jacking
around with the other developers and not working very hard.

Yes, there is risk with hiring remote employees, but it can work if you find
the right person.  Maybe you can even offer to have them come work on site
for one month on a 'temporary' basis, and if you like them (and their work
ethic) and they like you, then go perm after a month and go back to work
from home.  Even people with families can spring for a month on the road if
they know it could turn into a long term perm position where they can work
from home.

The technology is readily available for app develepors to work remotely
successfully, more companies need to just start doing it.

That's my 3 cents... ;)

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip B. Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:43 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: RE: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?


I suspect that CF jobs in LA, like most major cities does not pay well
enough for developers to actually have any decent standard of living.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong ;-)

Warmest Regards,
 
Phillip B. Holmes
http://www.phillipholmes.com








 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Shichman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:51 PM
To: CF-Jobs-Talk
Subject: Where are the Los Angeles Developers?

Hey Everyone

This is not a job posting- just a frustrated question.

A year ago my company could post a CF job ad and get tens of responses.  Now
we post one and get 2 or 3 bad resumes.

Now I realize that myspace has snatched up a lot of the CF'ers in Los
Angeles, but could they really have gotten them all?   We have tried this
board, Craigslist, monster, dice - you name it - its just slim pickins. 

We pay competitively and have a growing company and compelling product.  

Any tips?

Help appreciated!

Ben Shichman







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