great post.
thx for the info R
-paul

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote:
> Vicky,
>
>    I wasn't able to find the presentation but I did find the notes of a
> person(http://www.philduba.com/index.cfm/2008/6/21/CFUnited--Changing-the-Game)
> who attended it. Here are his notes from the presentation "Changing the
> Games" by Helms.
>
> - Concentrating only on your rates = commoditizing yourself, at least
> without adding value and/or establishing relationships
> - Acquiring a new customer costs 6 times as much as keeping one
> - put the best interests of clients first, even if it isn't in your
> immediate best interests
> - message you put out is the types of clients you will attract (ie., if
> you say you build what is wanted and are cheap, those are the types of
> clients you will get)
> - build a portfolio before going off on own, take on jobs you have no
> problem referring future clients too
> - look deeper when responding to potential clients, keep their interests
> at heart
> - keep up to date on competition across the client's industry to see if
> there are other ideas that may be applicable to a client's needs or
> other things the competitors do not have
> - get as much information about a client as you can before meeting with them
> - remember that to a business person, software is expensive and risky.
> ideally, you need to develop a process and/or methodology that helps to
> mitigate the risk
> - Great comment from the audience: customers want programs done good,
> cheap, and quick and that most can only achieve two of the three
> - help to define the risk about the project, make the customer realize
> what could go wrong. it makes you stand out and differentiates yourself
> from others
> - goal is to be not just a commodity developer or coder, but become
> someone they can rely on that has their interests in heart
>
> Ravi.
>
> Vicky wrote:
>> Hal Helms & Clark Valberg gave a good preso at ColdFusion United called
>> "Changing the Game".  It was about how to win more profitable work.  The
>> materials may still be on the CF United 2008 website, if not on Hal's own
>> site/blog.  It was very interesting and worthwhile.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> At times, I get requests from people wanting me to build websites for
>>> them. Such websites range from a simple layout, in css without any
>>> server side scripting, to complex websites like those of social
>>> networks. These same people want the work to be done in an unbelievably
>>> short amount of time and with little to no budget. So I kept thinking on
>>> how to approach these people and explain this would cost time and money
>>> to deliver quality work. In turn, the old saying "A picture is worth a
>>> thousand words" comes to mind and this picture surely explains my
>>> feelings towards this situation.
>>>
>>> Check it out:
>>> *
>>> http://tinyurl.com/humorFreelance
>>>
>>> *Ravi.*
>>> *
>>>
>
>
> 

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