Hi.

The contents of the grid_mapping variable are doing as much mapping when 
specifying a projected coordinate system as they are when specifying a 
geographic (i.e., lon/lat) coordinate system.  It is telling you how to 
understand the spatial coordinate information, particularly in relation to any 
other choice of coordinate system.  It has an unfortunate name, in that it 
leads us to think about it as “the thing that tells me how I got from my X & Y 
coordinate variables to my lon & lat grids”.  When you have both X/Y 
coordinates and lon/lat auxiliary coordinates, the grid_mapping variable is 
actually telling you how to understand both.  There is really no such thing as 
a “null mapping”.

Grace and peace,

Jim 

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On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:25 AM, David Hassell <d.c.hass...@reading.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear Jonathan,
> 
> I like the idea of name for a grid mapping that doesn't actually map,
> but suggest a name of "null_mapping" (instead of "null") to better
> indicate to humans that whilst the variable is not mapping, it is
> doing something.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> David
> 
> ---- Original message from Jonathan Gregory (02PM 11 Mar 14)
> 
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:29:25 +0000
>> From: Jonathan Gregory <j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk>
>> To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
>> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Vertical datums (again)
>> 
>> Dear David
>> 
>>> I'm a bit confused as to the use of these grid_mapping parameters with
>>> vertical coordinates - do we need new grid_mapping_names? I'm
>>> thinking, for example, of linking a geoid specification to a vertical
>>> "altitude" coordinate.
>> 
>> That's a good point, thanks. I was thinking of the grid_mapping as a place to
>> record the reference surface in the same way as it does for 
>> latitude_longitude,
>> which was added as a "null" horizontal mapping. No "mapping" is required for
>> the vertical coordinate; it just needs its reference surface (vertical datum)
>> to be more precisely specified than its geophysical description of "geoid" or
>> "reference_ellipsoid" alone, for some applications.
>> 
>> I'd like to suggest we add a new grid_mapping_name of "null" to Appendix F,
>> thus: "This grid_mapping does not imply any mapping of horizontal or vertical
>> coordinates. Its purpose is to describe the reference ellipsoid or the 
>> geoid."
>> No map parameters, no map coordinates.
>> 
>> I would further suggest that we make latitude_longitude an alias for null.
>> 
>> It might happen that a different reference ellipsoid is required for vertical
>> and horizontal coordinates. Thanks to Mark's accepted ticket 70, this will be
>> no problem; it allows there to be more than one grid_mapping, and the
>> grid_mapping attribute indicates which coordinate variable each is relevant 
>> to.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jonathan
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