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#107: CF Data Model 1.7
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  Reporter:  markh           |       Owner:  [email protected]
      Type:  task            |      Status:  new                          
  Priority:  medium          |   Milestone:                               
 Component:  cf-conventions  |     Version:                               
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Comment (by markh):

 Replying to [comment:10 jonathan]:
 > Dear Mark

 >   * I think the definition should go in the field construct section.
 That was your suggestion originally and I agree with it, so I moved it.

 I'm not sure about this, but I'm happy to consider further.  Please may we
 leave the text it here for now and decide its proper home when we come the
 the field construct section?

 >   * As regards the purpose, I mentioned "shape" because it is possible
 or likely that cell measures might be defined for the geometrical form of
 the grid, such as angles between gridlines. That hasn't been done yet,
 although it's been discussed. We could foresee the possibility by
 including "shape" now, or we could modify the data model later.

 I think we should leave this alone for now

 > If we adopt the latter, I propose "A cell measure construct provides
 information about the size of the cells defined by an ordered list of one
 or more domain axes of the field." The last part is included because it's
 important to make clear that the construct does not have to refer to
 ''all'' the domain axes; if you just mention "domain", as in your draft,
 that is not made clear.

 ok

 > I don't think it's right to say "one is commonly used where the defined
 measure is not inferable from coordinates" because there is no prohibition
 or recommendation against supplying `cell_measures` even when they are
 inferable.

 My point is not about whether it is prohibited in cases where inference
 may be made.  Instead I thought to indicate that where a cell measure is
 supplied, it should be used in preference to any inferred or calculated
 quantity.  I have strengthened this statement, to be clear.

   ''Where provided, the measure should be used in preference to
 calculating such a measure from other information.''

 I think this is the message we want to provide to data interpreters.

 >   * I don't think we need references to properties, because I continue
 to think that we should not list possible values in the data model. That
 is a matter for vocabulary, not the conceptual model. I gave one example
 of the measure property and the units just to make clear what we meant.

 I think we have to reference the controlled vocabularies somehow from
 within the model, they are the keystone of CF.

 Are you concerned about listing the recognised ''names'' of the properties
 (e.g. ''measure'') or the allowable values (e.g. ''area'')?

 Perhaps we can leave these references in brackets just for now, and move
 onto properties, which I believe should help us shake out most of these
 details.

 >   * For the last part, I would say, "A numeric array of metric values
 whose shape is determined by the relevant subset of the domain axes in the
 order listed." The relevant subset are the ones mentioned in the
 description of the purpose of the construct.

 I have put this in; I will continue to ponder whether we will be able to
 remove this later as a result of carefully chosen text for domain axes,
 fields etc.

 > If we say "numeric", "typed" is implied, isn't it.

 I don't think it is, there are multiple types of numeric, such as int,
 float (and more in some implementations).  The array must have a specified
 type and not have it vary across its elements, I believe.

 mark

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