this was happening to us when a client was checking mail with cfpop and 
couldn't reach his mail server.

Douglas Knudsen wrote:

>nope, not getting any OOM errors at all.  Just a hung server every
>couple weeks.  When it hangs JRUN thread metrics indicate all is well,
>no huge set of qued requests and 0 delayed requests and only 2 to 5
>current threads being worked.  Memeory according to JRUn is fine. 
>Memeory according to task manager is high and CPU use is maxed.  Its
>like a slow process of death, lol.  I'm convinced its this one guys
>app that continually does big queries and continually gets pages
>running 15 to 25 secs long.  Once I segregate this app and make use of
>your suggestions we shall see.
>
>I'm supposed to be developing not spending hours in this abyss.  We
>are actually thinking of scheduling a service restart like once a week
>to clear out whatever is happening.  A horrible approach, but cheaper
>in our situation.
>
>D
>
>
>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:25:43 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>                                Well, If you are getting OOM errors then it
>>will tell you in the logs.  If you are getting them then you need to
>>increase the amount of memory available.  Yes it is possible to go above the
>>JVM Arguments. It is not a ceiling per say...it will of course manage GC
>>etc. but VM is a factor.
>>
>>From what you have posted it would seem the apps uses more memory than you
>>have assigned to - probably not all the time though.
>>
>>The hanging is no doubt a case of long running queries and the way CF is
>>managing them internally - you say you have not queued requests or timeouts?
>>
>>N
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 01 March 2005 15:21
>>To: CF-Server
>>Subject: Re: memory use and CF
>>
>>ugh, yuck.  If the VM memory use in task manager is correct, it is
>>more than the JVM args are set at.  Is that really possible?  If so
>>the  heap size settings seem worthless, eh?
>>
>>hmm, I'm using the JRun logging service, not any JVM args.  This is
>>setup in the jrun.xml file.  I've read that it doesn't add noticeable
>>load at all.  Plan to turn it off once things are more stable again.
>>Note we do not get any server crashes, we get server hangs.  If I
>>understand this all correctly, if the JVM runs out of memory
>>
>>D
>>
>>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:48:54 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>If Task Manager is that High it is a sure fire case that your app is using
>>>that amount of Memory!
>>>
>>>Again, you will get a far clearer picture of things if you run the
>>>      
>>>
>>VisualGC
>>    
>>
>>>- I wouldn't trust JRun metrics at all.
>>>
>>>N
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: 01 March 2005 14:50
>>>      
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