Products can't be under NDA - only people who signed NDAs can be under NDAs. Products are incapable of signing contracts. Also, I have signed no such contract. Therefore it ought to be legal for me to talk about such a product whenever I want. Perhaps the original poster was under NDA, but that should hardly affect the rest of the list population. If Macromedia has a problem, they'll have to take it up with whomever violated said NDA. my 2c -Tim At 09:56 PM 00/04/05 -0400, you wrote: >Please note that this product is still under NDA from what I know and those >who are beta testing it should not be speaking about it on the list. >Anything that is under NDA should NEVER be posted to the list. The last >thing we all need is a company coming down on us for 'breaking' NDA. > That being said, let me say that any 'press releases' like this should have >a header on the subject line announcing themselves as such. > >> WTF? What's going on here? Using a listserv to SPAM the entire CF >community, >> and under the weak guise of a query into the viability of HomeSite? This >is >> quite lame. I hope that Mike does not allow this to continue. >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WorldNet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:54 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History? >> >> >> HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is >> extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to >> *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite >or >> ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive. >> >> It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what >> the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia... >> >> Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today. >> >> What is UltraDev? >> Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand >> new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is >> the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design >> environment. >> >> Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to: >> >> 1. Create professional web applications >> UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy >> dynamic, database-driven Web applications. >> >> 2. Maintain total control over code >> UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total >> control over source code. >> >> 3. Connect easily to databases >> Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO >> database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and >> Microsoft Access. >> >> 4. View server-side data in the workspace >> Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing >> live data returned from the application server in your workspace. >> >> 5. Build for industry-standard servers >> UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold >> Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust >> industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM >> Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server. >> >> 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications >> Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers, >> Web applications and e-commerce solutions. >> >> >> UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone >> product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture. >> >> UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat. Macromedia is not planning >> to rev Drumbeat. >> >> UltraDev is expected to ship in June. >> >> >> FAQ >> What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev? >> Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites. >> While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application >> servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications. >> UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications >> using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML. >> >> What is the price of UltraDev? >> Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it >> will be priced competitively with other Web application development >> environments. >> >> I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications. >> Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price? >> Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any >> special offer. >> >> Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver? >> No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the >> specific needs of Web application developers. >> >> Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat? >> Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's >> solution for Web application development. >> >> Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev? >> Yes, registered users of Drumbeat will be offered an upgrade at a very >> competitive price. >> >> Will you continue to support Drumbeat? >> Yes, we will continue to provide Drumbeat technical support through >> the end of the year. >> >> Does this mean you won't be updating Drumbeat? >> Correct, UltraDev replaces Drumbeat as the Macromedia solution for >> creating Web applications. >> >> Will there be an e-commerce edition of UltraDev? >> The core product will not include any e-commerce specific features, >> but through the power of extensibility and our network of developers, >> you will be able to easily download extensions for creating e-commerce >> applications. >> >> Will I be able to open and edit my Drumbeat sites in UltraDev? >> Yes, UltraDev reads and writes ASP, JSP, and CFML. The published pages >> of your Drumbeat sites can be opened and edited. However UltraDev will >> not open .edf files. >> >> Will my Dreamweaver sites work in UltraDev? >> Dreamweaver's native file format is HTML. UltraDev reads, recognizes >> and parses HTML, so there won't be any problems opening files built in >> Dreamweaver or any other application like Cold Fusion Studio, >> FrontPage, and HomeSite. >> >> When will UltraDev be available? >> UltraDev is expected to be available in June 2000. >> >> I just bought Drumbeat, do I qualify for a free upgrade to UltraDev? >> Customers who buy Drumbeat after April 5, 2000 qualify for a free >> upgrade to UltraDev when it becomes available. >> >> Will UltraDev be available in languages other than English? >> Yes, the first release of UltraDev will be available in French and >> German. Japanese, Spanish, Italian, Swedish and Portuguese will be >> available in the second release of UltraDev. >> >> What platforms will UltraDev support? >> When UltraDev ships, it will be simultaneously available for Mac OS >> 8.6 or greater and Windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000. >> >> What servers will UltraDev support? >> Any ASP 2.0, Cold Fusion or JSP 1.0 server including Microsoft IIS, >> Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape >> Enterprise Server. >> >> What databases will UltraDev support? >> ODBC, JDBC, or ADO relational databases including Oracle, >> Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access. >> >> Is there training available for UltaDev? >> When UltraDev ships, Macromedia will provide tutorials, online >> documentation and training videos. 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