Products can't be under NDA - only people who signed NDAs can be under
NDAs.  Products are incapable of signing contracts.

Also, I have signed no such contract.  Therefore it ought to be legal for
me to talk about such a product whenever I want.  Perhaps the original
poster was under NDA, but that should hardly affect the rest of the list
population.  If Macromedia has a problem, they'll have to take it up with
whomever violated said NDA.

my 2c

-Tim

At 09:56 PM 00/04/05 -0400, you wrote:
>Please note that this product is still under NDA from what I know and those
>who are beta testing it should not be speaking about it on the list.
>Anything that is under NDA should NEVER be posted to the list. The last
>thing we all need is a company coming down on us for 'breaking' NDA.
> That being said, let me say that any 'press releases' like this should have
>a header on the subject line announcing themselves as such.
>
>> WTF? What's going on here? Using a listserv to SPAM the entire CF
>community,
>> and under the weak guise of a query into the viability of HomeSite? This
>is
>> quite lame. I hope that Mike does not allow this to continue.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WorldNet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:54 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Is HomeSite Soon To Be History?
>>
>>
>> HomeSite is the best and most popular development tool around *but* is
>> extremely vulnerable to the fact that developers can no longer afford to
>> *not* also use a layout-page-code generator in conjunction with HomeSite
>or
>> ***as a total replacement*** to be 100% productive.
>>
>> It seems Macromedia has not been as asleep at the wheel and I wonder what
>> the near future will bring...Consider this announcement from Macromedia...
>>
>> Macromedia announces code name UltraDev at Internet World today.
>>
>> What is UltraDev?
>> Designed specifically for application development, UltraDev is a brand
>> new product based on the Dreamweaver core architecture. UltraDev is
>> the first solution to support ASP, JSP and CFML within a single design
>> environment.
>>
>> Once UltraDev ships it will allow you to:
>>
>> 1. Create professional web applications
>> UltraDev provides everything you need to build, manage, and deploy
>> dynamic, database-driven Web applications.
>>
>> 2. Maintain total control over code
>> UltraDev is the only product with visual and source editing for total
>> control over source code.
>>
>> 3. Connect easily to databases
>> Quickly connect existing, static web pages to any ODBC, JDBC, or ADO
>> database including Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and
>> Microsoft Access.
>>
>> 4. View server-side data in the workspace
>> Save time and avoid repetitive tasks by viewing, testing, and editing
>> live data returned from the application server in your workspace.
>>
>> 5. Build for industry-standard servers
>> UltraDev is the only solution that lets you build ASP, JSP, and Cold
>> Fusion sites in one single design environment. Build sites for robust
>> industry servers like Microsoft IIS, Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM
>> Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape Enterprise Server.
>>
>> 6. Create robust enterprise-ready Web applications
>> Through extensibility, UltraDev integrates with other leading servers,
>> Web applications and e-commerce solutions.
>>
>>
>>  UltraDev is NOT a replacement to Dreamweaver, it's a new standalone
>> product built on the Dreamweaver core architecture.
>>
>> UltraDev IS the replacement to Drumbeat.  Macromedia is not planning
>> to rev Drumbeat.
>>
>> UltraDev is expected to ship in June.
>>
>>
>> FAQ
>> What is the difference between Dreamweaver and UltraDev?
>> Dreamweaver is a visual design solution for creating HTML web sites.
>> While Dreamweaver is open to integrating with leading web application
>> servers, it is not engineered for visually creating web applications.
>> UltraDev was built specifically for creating dynamic Web applications
>> using technologies like ASP, JSP, and CFML.
>>
>> What is the price of UltraDev?
>> Macromedia has not yet announced pricing for UltraDev. However, it
>> will be priced competitively with other Web application development
>> environments.
>>
>> I am a Macromedia customer and I currently develop Web applications.
>> Will I be able to purchase UltraDev for a special price?
>> Yes, but you must register your Macromedia product to qualify for any
>> special offer.
>>
>> Is UltraDev an add-on to Dreamweaver?
>> No, it is a new stand-alone product that is designed to meet the
>> specific needs of Web application developers.
>>
>> Does UltraDev replace Drumbeat?
>> Yes. When UltraDev ships it will replace Drumbeat as Macromedia's
>> solution for Web application development.
>>
>> Will there be an upgrade path from Drumbeat to UltraDev?
>> Yes, registered users of Drumbeat will be offered an upgrade at a very
>> competitive price.
>>
>> Will you continue to support Drumbeat?
>> Yes, we will continue to provide Drumbeat technical support through
>> the end of the year.
>>
>> Does this mean you won't be updating Drumbeat?
>> Correct, UltraDev replaces Drumbeat as the Macromedia solution for
>> creating Web applications.
>>
>> Will there be an e-commerce edition of UltraDev?
>> The core product will not include any e-commerce specific features,
>> but through the power of extensibility and our network of developers,
>> you will be able to easily download extensions for creating e-commerce
>> applications.
>>
>> Will I be able to open and edit my Drumbeat sites in UltraDev?
>> Yes, UltraDev reads and writes ASP, JSP, and CFML. The published pages
>> of your Drumbeat sites can be opened and edited. However UltraDev will
>> not open .edf files.
>>
>> Will my Dreamweaver sites work in UltraDev?
>> Dreamweaver's native file format is HTML. UltraDev reads, recognizes
>> and parses HTML, so there won't be any problems opening files built in
>> Dreamweaver or any other application like Cold Fusion Studio,
>> FrontPage, and HomeSite.
>>
>> When will UltraDev be available?
>> UltraDev is expected to be available in June 2000.
>>
>> I just bought Drumbeat, do I qualify for a free upgrade to UltraDev?
>> Customers who buy Drumbeat after April 5, 2000 qualify for a free
>> upgrade to UltraDev when it becomes available.
>>
>> Will UltraDev be available in languages other than English?
>> Yes, the first release of UltraDev will be available in French and
>> German. Japanese, Spanish, Italian, Swedish and Portuguese will be
>> available in the second release of UltraDev.
>>
>> What platforms will UltraDev support?
>> When UltraDev ships, it will be simultaneously available for Mac OS
>> 8.6 or greater and Windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000.
>>
>> What servers will UltraDev support?
>> Any ASP 2.0, Cold Fusion or JSP 1.0 server including Microsoft IIS,
>> Allaire Cold Fusion, IBM Websphere, BEA WebLogic, and Netscape
>> Enterprise Server.
>>
>> What databases will UltraDev support?
>> ODBC, JDBC, or ADO relational databases including Oracle,
>> Sybase, Informix, Microsoft SQL Server and Microsoft Access.
>>
>> Is there training available for UltaDev?
>> When UltraDev ships, Macromedia will provide tutorials, online
>> documentation and training videos. Online training, books
>>
>> Please visit http://www.macromedia.com/software/ultradev and sign up
>> to receive additional information once it becomes available.
>>
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