Dick

did you check the price of this thing!!!!!!!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 7:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT (longish) Tango??


The item (below) was included in a posting to another UG...

...the author is an employee of Pervasive (Developer of Tango)

It's claims caught my attention.

Anyone have any thoughts/experiences with Tango vs CF.

Dick



>I am a senior software engineer for Pervasive Software (the maker of
Tango).
>I work in the developer solutions group and I was responsible for writing
>the StoreFront demo that comes with package.  I can tell you that Tango
>handles "all" of the above.  As I write this, I am in the middle of a
>multi-developer/multi-site development effort for the largest project I've
>ever been involved with - all built completely around Tango.  We are using
>SourceSafe for source control and Tango directly connects to this package
>from within the IDE (as well others) - key to survival here!  Tango is very
>XML centric, the application files Tango generates are XML and Tango has a
>full set of XML/DOM interfaces - including the ability to retrieve and send
>XML over HTTP which allows things like WML
>(http://www.pervasive.com/news/pr/pr00apr05.html), SOAP, and other XML
>standards to be used.  Tango is a GUI driven "action" based development
>environment that also includes an extensible "Mark-up language" as well as
>object oriented design capabilities (Tango class files) and the ability to
>directly use both COM and Java Beans - and even other extensibility
features
>(DLL, command line, apple script).  All this, and not mention that Tango is
>available on Window, UNIX, Linux and Mac platforms.  We find many users
>preferring to develop on the Mac platform and deploy on NT or UNIX.  Tango
>also has the ability, unlike CF, to separate the Tango server from the Web
>Server allowing a higher level of security to be implemented by placing a
>firewall between Tango and your web server - this is very critical when
your
>database also needs to be behind the firewall yet doesn't use TCP/IP as a
>transport mechanism!  Tango can connect to any data store that supports
>ODBC, and can also directly connect to Oracle (via OCI) and Pervasive.SQL.
>I can go on, but I don't need to - I can say what ever I want, only you can
>decide for yourself if the tool is right for you, so don't take my word for
>it, try it yourself: http://www.pervasive.com/tango/.
>
>Also, be sure to visit some sites built on Tango:
>
>http://www.theglobe.com
>http://www.colleges.com
>http://www.jokes.com
>http://componentzone.pervasive.com
>
>Thanks,
>Ritchie
>
>*** Thoughts on Cold Fusion ***
>
>In CF, there is no action based GUI like Tango's, it has only a page-based
>layout.  The CF Editor is just Allaire's HomeSite product with CF tags
>thrown in.  Although CF has project wizards, it still takes hours to days
to
>do what Tango's Search Builder can do in four minutes.  The graphical
>structure of Tango makes it much easier to use for big projects, and easy
>source control integration and Tango-based objects means that it is easy to
>split a project between many people.
>
>*** Key Tango Features ***
>
>- Intuitive, visual application development environment-the Tango
>Development Studio.
>- 26 built-in actions for implementing business logic.
>- Object extensibility with COM objects and JavaBeans.
>- Tango's own object model-robust reusability with Tango class files.
>- State-of-the-art personalization and content management.
>- Full XML implementation for accurate business-to-business communication.
>- Cross-platform development on Windows or Mac OS.
>- Multi-platform deployment on Windows NT/95/98, Solaris, Linux and
>Macintosh.
>- A robust Application Server that scales to meet increasing demands.
>- Team-based development features, such as source code control mechanisms
>for secure development.
>- Native Oracle support and bundled ODBC drivers for advanced database
>connectivity.
>- Pervasive.SQL 2000 database bundled with Windows, Solaris and Linux
>versions.
>- Online tutorials, demos and sample code to jumpstart development and cut
>the learning curve.
>
>*** Usability Highlights ***
>
>- Able to separate application logic from presentation logic.  This makes
it
>MUCH easier to modify someone else's' code.
>- Able to break down presentation code into smaller bite size pieces.
>- Search/Update/Delete Database Actions are very fast to setup and useful
>for integrating data rapidly into web applications.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:23 AM
>Subject: RE: Popularity Cold Fusion
>
>
>Can you explain "Not good for big projects with different coder. No
>structure enough."
>
>One of the Key features that we are looking for in Cold Fusion is
>Distributed Development/Remote
>Development of applications, We need good project management capablities
>like Source Control Integration, Remote team development etc.Also,being a
>offshore software development company catering to the US markets it becomes
>all the more critical.
>
>One more feature we are looking hard is CFML and XML integration.
>
>How does Tango handle the above?
>Does Tango have its own server side Mark-up language?
>
>I would appreciate your inputs.
>
>regards
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 8:44 PM
>Subject: RE: Popularity Cold Fusion
>
>
>Really a good product for small project. Quick learned and quick coding.
>Not good for big projects with different coder. No structure enough.
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > Sent: mardi 4 avril 2000 11:02
>  > Subject: Popularity Cold Fusion
>  >
>  >
>  > We are considered purchasing of Alliare's Cold Fusion server
>  > and Cold fusion
>  > Studio for Web application development.
>  >
>  > Would in like any inputs on its popularity, CFML etc.
>  >
>  > Thank you,
>  >
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