That is fair. Likewise, I have found CS graduates who do not know how to problem solve. I suppose what I am saying here is that there is no silver bullet either way. My experience has dictated that of the people I have interviewed and worked with, the ones (again, in general) who were the greatest assets to a larger, more complex project, were those that either came from a Software Engineering background, or understood Software Engineering.
One of our best developers ever was a guy who learned CF on his own while studying Applied Physics. Another was a Philosophy major. Neither one of them could define software engineering. But did that matter? Not in the least. My apologies if my post came across as a blanket statement. Either way, its not a title that's important to me, it's the knowledge/experience/ability that make it all happen. --Paul Paul W. Wille [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------- Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer --------------------------------------------------- ISITE Design, Inc. -- Senior Programmer www.isitedesign.com 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200 Portland, OR 97205 503.221.9860 x110 503.221.9865 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer Paul, I'd have to with your statement below. Some of the best programmers I know don't have degrees. Likewise, I've also seen some programmers (who have degrees) but can't seem to come up with anything original in the way of problem solving. Its as though everything they know came from a book. In many cases the degree doesn't say much other than they know how to read a textbook, memorize a few things, and then regurgitate it on a final exam. One question that is always worth asking during the interviewing process is "What types of things/programs do you work on in your spare time?" If you get an answer like "...not much really, I go fishing on the weekends..." then chances are you've got a "programmer" who's in it more for the money than the love of programming. -Novak > That said, I will not hire someone who touts being a programmer if all they list as their expertise is ASP, JSP, CF, PHP. I look at their schooling as well, to see if they have a CS degree...something that instills good PROGRAMMING principles, not just the ability to program. > > --Paul ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
