Hell I have a business degree and I learned web design (yes the pretty pictures) myself and then learned CF, SQL, and data design on the job with my buddy who was a member of Team Allaire.
I might not always get the technical term right...but I like to think I've come up with some rather creative solutions in the past due to my background. Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wille, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: RE: programmer vs. developer > That is fair. Likewise, I have found CS graduates who do not know how > to problem solve. I suppose what I am saying here is that there is no > silver bullet either way. My experience has dictated that of the people > I have interviewed and worked with, the ones (again, in general) who > were the greatest assets to a larger, more complex project, were those > that either came from a Software Engineering background, or understood > Software Engineering. > > One of our best developers ever was a guy who learned CF on his own > while studying Applied Physics. Another was a Philosophy major. > Neither one of them could define software engineering. But did that > matter? Not in the least. > > My apologies if my post came across as a blanket statement. Either way, > its not a title that's important to me, it's the > knowledge/experience/ability that make it all happen. > > --Paul > > Paul W. Wille [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------- > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > --------------------------------------------------- > ISITE Design, Inc. -- Senior Programmer > www.isitedesign.com > 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200 > Portland, OR 97205 > 503.221.9860 x110 > 503.221.9865 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: programmer vs. developer > > Paul, > > I'd have to with your statement below. Some of the best programmers I > know > don't have degrees. Likewise, I've also seen some programmers (who have > degrees) but can't seem to come up with anything original in the way of > problem solving. Its as though everything they know came from a book. > In > many cases the degree doesn't say much other than they know how to read > a > textbook, memorize a few things, and then regurgitate it on a final > exam. > One question that is always worth asking during the interviewing process > is > "What types of things/programs do you work on in your spare time?" If > you > get an answer like "...not much really, I go fishing on the weekends..." > then chances are you've got a "programmer" who's in it more for the > money > than the love of programming. > > -Novak > > > That said, I will not hire someone who touts being a programmer if all > they list as their expertise is ASP, JSP, CF, PHP. I look at their > schooling as well, to see if they have a CS degree...something that > instills > good PROGRAMMING principles, not just the ability to program. > > > > --Paul > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
