Agreed, I'm not trying to be argumentative in this thread at all, it's just frustrating when your development platform of choice and your operating system of choice do not support one another.
I'm just going to have to break down and buy VirtualPC and port it myself. Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OS/X redux (long) On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:47 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: > Macromedia is a commercial company. We have a responsibility to our > users, and to our stockholders to so what is needed. > Hear, Hear! That is the correct approach. I would not have much faith in a company, or its products, if they frivolously dissipated their assets. Macromedia's greatest responsibility is to stay in business, and to do that they must make a profit. My hope is that Macromedia will periodically review the OS X market potential for CFMX and associated products, with a sound, business approach. And, when the business case can be made, that they release a CFMX product for Mac OS X. As much as I want CFMX for Mac OS X, it will do me no good if Macromedia goes out of business releasing it. I do think that opening up CFMX to Mac developers, will drive some sales of CFMX Server software on other platforms. For over 5 years, I have been developing CF software on nothing but a Mac. These installations are deployed on other platforms. With the port of the Developer version to OS X, I (and many others) can now develop much more efficiently-- this should increase our deployment on other platforms. I hope that the port creates enough interest that people will see the advantages of a CF-Mac product. Then they will communicate this to Macromedia (who does listen), as input for building a business case. Hmm.. according to Jesse's comments, maybe giving the same feedback to Apple would help the process. The port would have not been possible without the help and guidance of Jesse, Sean Corfield, Christian Cantrell, Tom Dyson, and other people within Macromedia, and those on the outside. The contacts I have had with Macromedia people, are exemplified by the honest, considered, sober, professional and very business-like approach used by Jesse and Sean in their participation in the variious threads on this subject. Macromedia could have easily prevented the port -- that they didn't means a lot. --- comes the revolution... Dick If you are interested, some background is included below. ===================== Background ===================== When I first realized that a port was possible, I planned to just publish a terse step-by-step procedure and publish it on CF-Talk -- no big deal, one experienced CF developer explaining a technique to other experienced CF developers. I had been spending a lot of time at the O'Reilly sites, learning OS X and installing things like PHP, MySQL, etc. I decided that that the CFMX port should be published here so it could reach a larger audience. I presented the idea, and port checklist, to Derrick Story (Editor of the O'Reilly Web Sites and) an advocate of the Mac OS X platform. Derrick thought it was a great idea, and said they would publish on 2 of the O'Reilly sites: Mac Development Center Web Development Center The one thing Derrick wanted me to do was expand the approach so the article would appeal to much broader audience, including those who: didn't know anything about ColdFusion knew ColdFusion but rejected the Mac platform because CF was not available on the Mac knew the Mac but rejected ColdFusion, for the same reason. What I had proposed as a single article became a 4-part series -- the actual port being part 3. The first 2 parts were designed to attract those (above) who, for whatever reason, had rejected (or not considered) ColdFusion and the Mac together. It was a lot of extra work but the feedback told me that there was interest, and the approach had opened (or focused) some eyes on the potential of CFMX and Mac OS X. The professional Developers (CF and non-CF) lambasted me "Where is part 3", "Get to the point", "Why are you dragging this out". But they were more than offset by the "Yes, finally", "I didn't know this was possible", "Now I can be on a par...", "I was wondering if this was possible" feedback. I think Derrick's approach was the right one, and there is a lot of interest in the Mac-CF combination that would not be there if we had just published a checklist for professional developers. ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists