This does make me wonder. I know we are individuals aren't allowed to
redistribute CFMX, so we can't repackage the Linux version into an OS X
version. However, what about server integration partners like my
company? We are allowed to OEM CFMX and create our own distributions. I
wonder if there is anything to stop us from selling an OS X version.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:30 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> 
> Do you have access to a linux machine?
> 
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
> 
> "But I neeeeed tacos! I need them or I will
> explode! That happens to me sometimes!" -GIR
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> >
> > Out of curiosity, where did you get the version of CFMX you run on
OSX
> > daily? Did you build it yourself using Dick's method or is there
another
> > way to do it? I'd stop complaining if I could just get a copy. I
don't
> > give a crap about Verity and WebServices, while on the horizon for
the
> > application I'm currently building, aren't a big concern for me
right
> > now.
> >
> > Is there a way to do it without having to buy VirtualPC?
> >
> > Joshua Miller
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:22 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Where is javac? [Now OS/X redux]
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 08:15 , Jesse Noller wrote:
> > >   No, I was the only one from Macromedia who commented. The users
> > who
> > > feel strongly about the subject would obviously say yes.
> >
> > Well, I commented too. I run CFMX on OSX day-in, day-out and do all
my
> > development on it. But. As I have repeatedly pointed out IT IS
> > UNSUPPORTED.
> >   Verity doesn't work, publishing web services doesn't work. I'm
sure
> > other
> > stuff doesn't work too. For what *I* need, it does the job. If it
> > breaks,
> > I'm on my own.
> >
> > Jesse's points about cost / ROI for ports are spot on. I worked for
a
> > software company in the early 90's who targeted about 20 different
> > hardware / OS combinations. We had to create phenomenally portable
code
> > in
> > order to be able to do that in a cost-effective manner - which
strictly
> > limited the sophistication of our products!
> >
> > >   Neither of these avenues have been shown, or opened to us as of
> > yet,
> > > our most common feedback is for a "Free Developer version" for
OS/X.
> >
> > Exactly. This would be a zero-revenue situation for us which makes
the
> > port unappealing. More to the point, users would still expect
everything
> >
> > to work flawlessly. Look at the loud complaints already over some of
> > thee
> > small differences between CF5 and CFMX! Multiply that by an already
> > vocal
> > minority clamoring for the OSX port and multiply *that* by some
> > necessarily omitted functionality - like Verity - and it hardly
bears
> > thinking about!
> >
> > While Dick is an admirable champion of the platform, he is also a
very
> > good example of the level of 'noise' we make expect if the OSX port
> > wasn't
> > perfect (no offense Dick, I'm sure you understand what I mean!).
> >
> > > Trust me, I *want* us to support these platforms, but as a
developer,
> > > QA
> > > engineer, long time employee and a budding business person,
wanting
> > > something is nice, but given current constraints and reality, it
is
> > not a
> > > viable opportunity for continued growth and revenue generation.
> >
> > Like Jesse, I also want to see us support more platforms but, as
Jesse
> > so
> > correctly points out, it ain't viable (and may never be so).
> >
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> >
> > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > -- Margaret Atwood
> >
> >
> >
> 
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