Most importantly I'd suggest folks take the time to learn how to design "useable" interfaces rather then throw a bunch of flash movies at folks just because you can...No matter how cool or slick the application is...if you frustrate the end user they'll go back to what they know and you'll find it very difficult justifying "rich client" development to the powers that be.
I guess what I'm saying is it's a great idea to dive in...just proceed with a little caution and keep your eyes and ears open to best pratices. Design wise checkout books by Alan Cooper (http://www.cooper.com/) and Jakob Nielson (http://www.useit.com/) Just my couple cents! Cheers, Stace -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (Flash/CFMX Rocks!) Flash Remoting and Popchart Thanks, Stace. So, it looks like from your experience and perspective, using Flash MX intefaces for CF apps is the way to go, huh? It sure looks good from the outside. Have you run into many issues that make a Flash MX interface unsuitable for apps that are typically browser-based apps? I would love to be able to build apps where clients didn't have to jump all over the place (pages) to process info... Rick -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (Flash/CFMX Rocks!) Flash Remoting and Popchart Well I can't say I haven't invested the time in figuring stuff out...but the articles on MM dev center got me started. The tutorials are simple but they cover the ground work u need. As for Flash itself...I've had prior experience so the learning curve wasn't as bad...it's a lot of work but I'd say it's worth it... So for actionscript u can get enough off the dev center...and for flash itself I'd have to say a good book and a lot of example dissecting... Good luck! Stace -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (Flash/CFMX Rocks!) Flash Remoting and Popchart Hi, Stacy. Any suggestions on particular tutorials or books that focus on integrating CFMX and Flash MX that helped you? I'm versed in CFMX, well, actually, CF 4.5.2, but have little experience with Flash and no experience with ActiveScript. Most of the bookw I thumbed through at Barnes and Nobles, which has quite a few, have a lot of information that I don't need. I can figure out how to create and manipulate graphics in Flash MX, but there's just not enough info to help me understand integrating CFMX and Flash MX completely. There is typically only about 5-10 pages on integrating CFMX and Flash MX in a 500 page, $70 book. What I need is step-by-step tutorials that do explain everything that's going on. So far I've found overviews with no details, or detailed code with little explanation. It's frustrating not being able to find the information I need in the form I need it. And this is supposed to be the information "Superhighway"? Sometimes it feels more like a "Backroad to Nowhere." Rick -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: (Flash/CFMX Rocks!) Flash Remoting and Popchart P.S. Remoting and components ROCK. I've got a prototype internal app slapped together in a few days that can manage our flagship product/service. Smokes our browser based version hand over fist...hehe Not only that...but I replicated much of the administrative backend logic (originally in java) in cfmx with components in that same time span...it'll freak a few folks out around our shop. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting and Popchart I can't...it's a rich client app so the movie location/name is dynamic in that I can be loading these charts in a number of different scenarios and don't know it at runtime... Also it appears Popchart uses straight urls for drilldown making it impossible to have it operate as it's own entity without reloading my page... :( Has anyone implemented drilldown with cfmx built-in graphs? Cheers, Stace -----Original Message----- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting and Popchart if you can, i would do this: instead of loading the flash movie, calling the server for the name of the movie to load, and then calling the server again to load the movie i would do this: pass the name of the movie to load through the html to the flash movie: movie.swf?movieName=movietoload.swf that should save you a trip to the server. let me know if this doesnt make sense or if you would like some more info. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:29 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting and Popchart > > > Plus popchart is generating the clip complete with drilldown > navigation > which I *think* calls a loadMovie for the next drilldown. > Whether or not all > that will work embedded inside my mx app....I will soon find out... > > Being able to return a swf via remoting would save me a round > trip to the > server... > > Stace > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:20 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting and Popchart > > I believe ActionScript objects have to be statically linked > to SWFs, so > simply returning an ActionScript object isn't going to work. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Gorrono [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:19 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting and Popchart > > > > On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 06:52 PM, Stacy Young wrote: > > > > > Was about to whip up a Flash mx app and pull in some of > my Popcharts > ( > > > http://www.corda.com )...I'm figuring I can do this by having a > > > component > > > return the url of the flash clip to flash and have it > embed it in my > > > movie... > > > > > > Was wondering if anyone had an opinion on other ways? What about > > > returning > > > the actual swf via remoting? > > > > > > P.S. If you're wondering why I don't use the built-in > graph stuff in > > > cfmx...Popchart smokes it hands down...of course you gotta pay the > > > bucks for > > > it... > > > > > > Stace > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting idea... The Flash server interchange maps structs on the > cfc > > side to ActionScript Objects on the Flash side. So, if you could > > properly define a struct with a cfc that would map directly into a > > object with all the right properties to make a MovieClip object > > dynamically, you could use the object passed from the cfc to help > > construct a movieclip using the MovieClip method attachmovie()... > never > > done it... just wondering out loud > > Jp > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. 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