This thread is in context with CF. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2002 19:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR
I am seeing a lot of *FLASH* talk on here.. its kinda disturbing... was wondering if Michael can move all the FLASH talk to another discussion Group (CF-TALK-FLASH) or something like that. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR > OK then, will I get a super discount on Flash from MM - say 98% as I am only > going to use 2% of its features? > > :-) nah, didnt think so...... > > N > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 September 2002 16:38 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course > t o be offered by MACR > > > Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense. > > I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in > one and the second is populated with selections that change based on > what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and easily in HTML > (without screen refreshes). > > Flash, ColdFusion CFCs, and Flash Remoting make it a no brainer. > > Did I use animation? Nope. Did I need the timeline? Nope. In fact, I > don't even have it open - I used a single frame and a single layer. > > There is legitimate use for Flash beyond animation. > > --- Ben > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course > t o be offered by MACR > > > so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation? I may > just be a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and > not HTML.... > > doesnt make sense... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to > be offered by MACR > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) > > > I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it > > linking to a DB > > for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML > > and no I am not > > anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the > > business benefit > > (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be > > developed in normal HTML. > > If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction, > then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users > interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely, > the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update > the data view (or to submit data, etc). > > btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash > for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for > about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which > a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the > server. > > > > What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of > > Participants' > > (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running. > > For what its worth, here is my workflow. > > 1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components. 2. > send it to a designer to make it look pretty. > > btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing > in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a > bunch of code that maintains client state across page views. > > mike chambers > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
