So you're advocating a minimum 140% increase in the cost of the server as a "fix" for their JDBC problems? I think there are better solutions -- I don't think any of them will result in applications which are not working on MX now working on MX flawlessly _today_ , but it seems to me that using the ODBC socket temporarily or using an MX license to run CF 5 in production until issues with MX can be resolved are reasonable interrim solutions.
S. Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > You can buy a single server license to WebSphere for 7k. > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:43 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was > Re: >> LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!) >> >> I'd be really hesitant to assume that anyone who can afford to > implement >> CFMX can afford to implement WebSphere... I haven't looked at it > recently, >> but I remember someone mentioning a figure to me that was well over > 10x >> the >> cost of CFMX Enterprise. I may be confused and that may include the > cost >> of >> the hardware, et al, though I'd be surprised if the software alone > were >> terribly inexpensive even after stripping all the extra stuff... >> >> S. Isaac Dealey >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer >> >> www.turnkey.to >> 954-776-0046 >> >> > It would seem to me that the underlying J2EE application server >> > implements everything that goes along with JDBC drivers like > connection >> > pooling, etc. Possibly, the people who are having JDBC problems with >> > CFMX should try CFMX J2EE on top of IBM WebSphere and see if the >> > problems go away. >> >> > Matt Liotta >> > President & CEO >> > Montara Software, Inc. >> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ >> > 888-408-0900 x901 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:47 AM >> >> To: CF-Talk >> >> Subject: Re: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter > - >> > About >> >> ready to dump CF! >> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 18:05 US/Pacific, S. Isaac >> >> > Dealey wrote: >> >> >> I thought all the db drivers were 3rd party ... Has >> >> >> Allaire / MM >> >> >> actually >> >> >> developed db drivers? >> >> >> >> > Er, no, I just meant that the JDBC drivers about which >> >> > people are >> >> > complaining were not written by us... which means that we >> >> > are reliant >> >> > on 3rd party vendors fixing them or making other drivers >> >> > available. >> >> >> >> Ahh gotcha ... See, I'd been under the impression that was the case >> >> all-along, which I guess explains why I never expected any > potential >> >> problems with db drivers to be quick fixes... because it requires > MM >> > tech >> >> support getting enough data to give to the 3rd party and then > either >> >> producing a work-around or haggling with the driver vendors or > both, >> > which >> >> I >> >> imagine could be a protracted sort of arrangement. >> >> >> >> Isaac >> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer >> >> >> >> www.turnkey.to >> >> 954-776-0046 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
