I don't know how you break out developer time in your costs, but I can imagine spending developer time on workarounds can get expensive fast.
Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: > LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!) > > So you're advocating a minimum 140% increase in the cost of the server as > a > "fix" for their JDBC problems? I think there are better solutions -- I > don't > think any of them will result in applications which are not working on MX > now working on MX flawlessly _today_ , but it seems to me that using the > ODBC socket temporarily or using an MX license to run CF 5 in production > until issues with MX can be resolved are reasonable interrim solutions. > > S. Isaac Dealey > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > > > You can buy a single server license to WebSphere for 7k. > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:43 AM > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: Re: JDBC implementation (was RE: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was > > Re: > >> LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!) > >> > >> I'd be really hesitant to assume that anyone who can afford to > > implement > >> CFMX can afford to implement WebSphere... I haven't looked at it > > recently, > >> but I remember someone mentioning a figure to me that was well over > > 10x > >> the > >> cost of CFMX Enterprise. I may be confused and that may include the > > cost > >> of > >> the hardware, et al, though I'd be surprised if the software alone > > were > >> terribly inexpensive even after stripping all the extra stuff... > >> > >> S. Isaac Dealey > >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > >> > >> www.turnkey.to > >> 954-776-0046 > >> > >> > It would seem to me that the underlying J2EE application server > >> > implements everything that goes along with JDBC drivers like > > connection > >> > pooling, etc. Possibly, the people who are having JDBC problems with > >> > CFMX should try CFMX J2EE on top of IBM WebSphere and see if the > >> > problems go away. > >> > >> > Matt Liotta > >> > President & CEO > >> > Montara Software, Inc. > >> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > >> > 888-408-0900 x901 > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:47 AM > >> >> To: CF-Talk > >> >> Subject: Re: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter > > - > >> > About > >> >> ready to dump CF! > >> >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 18:05 US/Pacific, S. Isaac > >> >> > Dealey wrote: > >> >> >> I thought all the db drivers were 3rd party ... Has > >> >> >> Allaire / MM > >> >> >> actually > >> >> >> developed db drivers? > >> >> > >> >> > Er, no, I just meant that the JDBC drivers about which > >> >> > people are > >> >> > complaining were not written by us... which means that we > >> >> > are reliant > >> >> > on 3rd party vendors fixing them or making other drivers > >> >> > available. > >> >> > >> >> Ahh gotcha ... See, I'd been under the impression that was the case > >> >> all-along, which I guess explains why I never expected any > > potential > >> >> problems with db drivers to be quick fixes... because it requires > > MM > >> > tech > >> >> support getting enough data to give to the 3rd party and then > > either > >> >> producing a work-around or haggling with the driver vendors or > > both, > >> > which > >> >> I > >> >> imagine could be a protracted sort of arrangement. > >> >> > >> >> Isaac > >> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > >> >> > >> >> www.turnkey.to > >> >> 954-776-0046 > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
