Yea, I should get into the habbit of taking screen captures. :) > Isaac,
> In fact, I heard Ben F. say at a conference last fall that "most" CF is > deployed "inside" the company firewall. > -mk > P.S. - You'll have to settle for screen shots for your resume'... either > that or use the client as a reference <g>. > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > ColdFusion? > You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people " all my work is > behind > someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it > be > impressive!" ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume this way? > S. Isaac Dealey > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 >> Agreed, there are several sites I have built that no one outside the >> client will ever see. This makes it difficult to create a portfolio, but >> I'm sure there are as many "hidden" sites in CF as there are public >> sites, if not more. >> Joshua Miller >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for >> ColdFusion? >> Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF that >> can never be viewed from the public Internet. We are working on three >> major ones at present, two for Sempra Energy and one for Ernst and >> Young. These are large applications being created to replace legacy >> ones. I am sure there must be other such things going on out there. >> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO >> Webapper >> http://www.webapper.com >> Downey CA Office >> 562.243.6255 >> AIM - webappermb >> "Webapper - Making the NET work" >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:25 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? >>>The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this >> on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this. >> Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is >> around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're >> really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall >> installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list >> of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing: >> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/ >> Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world, >> the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following >> are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me: >> http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/ >> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19&languageid=1 >> http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre >> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some >> just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com >> We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and >> are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when >> they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of >> too! >> In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the >> CF >> market: >> *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as >> makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits >> of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered >> by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the >> Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or >> their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of >> CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will >> enjoy this huge leap forward. >> *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them >> be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings: >> www.macromedia.com/desdev >> *We're tappiing into new markets for CF: >> -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to >> CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF >> readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities. >> -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not >> trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers. >> Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are >> moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in droves. >> Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its built >> in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter >> learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for >> these new application developers. >> *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work >> more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering "one-stop" >> shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we can >> deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those >> who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked to >> remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most) of >> these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms. >> Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of everything >> we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas >> as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional >> technologies & skills into their shops. >> It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and >> fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are >> not mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, and >> another is fortcoming. >> Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. Yes, >> there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some of the >> more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to and >> incorporate to the community's feedback, while we continue to innovate. >> Unfortunately, sometimes we can't talk about everything happening, even >> in the face of >> (emerging) competition. But that shouldn't be misread as an indication >> that nothing is happening behind the scenes. >> I personally think the economy has stifled some of the payoff from >> Macromedia's efforts, it's stifled just about everything involving >> economics! But eventually you will start to see these efforts start to >> pay off for ColdFusion and CF developers. >> Nay-sayers can say spout gloom and doom if they will, but CF is on the >> way up. We're just gettin' started! >> Vernon Viehe >> ColdFusion Community Manager >> Developer Relations >> Macromedia, Inc. >> Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ >> -------------------- >> Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a >> New Internet Experience Register today at >> www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
