AOL has their own internal RBL and uses their own rules.  If you are sending
alot of email across their network you should speak with them about being
whitelisted.  They may be enforcing rDNS, some anti-spam efforts do this.
They probably have other criteria as well.  Most of the AOL delivery
problems that we have had in the past were just related to a few really slow
relays that held the mail for a few hours before spitting it back out.

Oh, if they are rejecting based on a non-matching rDNS, they should be doing
it at the connection and not even accepting the mail.  I would be very
surprised to hear that it was really being sent to /dev/null.

Justin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: AOL?
> 
> Ah, excuse me, the "validate sender" is a separate selection 
> on the mail server.
> Sorry
> 
> =====================================
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =====================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:24 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: AOL?
> 
> 
> | I am not trying to start a flame war here, I just want to make sure
> | noone gets the wrong impression and confirm or disprove 
> what I thought
> | SMTP-AUTH was. As far as I can tell from RFC 2554 SMTP-AUTH
> | really has nothing to do with checking reverse DNS, it is just an
> | authentication method.
> |
> | on Wed Dec 18 samcfug spoke forth with the blessed manuscript
> | > I see your point, however, in my own case as a email 
> hosting provider, I
> have
> | > the settings set to enable SMTP AUTH, which is what you 
> mean by doing the
> | > reverse lookup.  I also make it a point to create the 
> "in-addr-arpa" record
> in
> | > DNS that takes care of it.   That is just another task in 
> hosting email
> domains.
> | > In fact I use a script that takes care of all this when 
> adding a new domain.
> | > If you were an ISP or hosting provider, you would be 
> aware of the constant
> | > attacks by others trying to spoof one of your hosted 
> addresses, including
> virus
> | > attacks such as the Klez Virus, which are all turned away 
> at the server.
> | > That is my story, and I am sticking to it! :-)
> |
> | > =====================================
> | > Douglas White
> | > group Manager
> | > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > http://www.samcfug.org
> | > =====================================
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:12 PM
> | > Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
> |
> |
> | > | Ya know.. Don't let them hit you with that.
> | > |
> | > | The problem is, new sysadmins tend to think that making 
> changes is part
> | > | of their job.  We had a MAJOR battle with HUD since one 
> of our customers
> | > | submits information to them via email regularly.  
> Suddenly, they could
> | > | not contact HUD, due to a policy change by a new admin 
> who decided that
> | > | if the email server didn't reverse to the same domain 
> name, it was
> | > | most-likely SPAM.  The problem is (as you are most 
> likely aware) that
> | > | with 1000's of domain names on a single mail server, 
> how could you
> | > | POSSIBLY reverse to them?  Even if you added all the 
> reverse names to
> | > | your DNS server manually, it would never answer with 
> the right one
> | > | first.. So it's not logical.
> | > |
> | > | We have to force them to understand that THEY are not 
> the ONLY ISP on
> | > | the planet... and that making willy-nilly admin 
> decisions effects
> | > | millions.  If we fight back, they will change the policy.
> | > |
> | > | Just my .02...
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | | -----Original Message-----
> | > | | From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | > | | Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:05 AM
> | > | | To: CF-Talk
> | > | | Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
> | > | |
> | > | |
> | > | | Aol says my reverse DNS is not up.... But everything on my
> | > | | server appears to be working fine.... I guess its my fault
> | > | | after all lol
> | > | |
> | > | | -----Original Message-----
> | > | | From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | > | | Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:44 PM
> | > | | To: CF-Talk
> | > | | Subject: RE: OT: AOL?
> | > | |
> | > | |
> | > | | On 12/18/02, Kris Pilles penned:
> | > | | >No good.... This sucks... MY clients are starting to 
> notice this
> | > | | >too.....  Weird thing is the mail just disappears... No
> | > | | bounce back or
> | > | | >anything like that...
> | > | |
> | > | | I occasionally have similar problems. I ALWAYS use them as an
> | > | | opportunity to point out to my client that they are 
> LIKELY losing
> | > | | other e-mails, some which may be important. I point 
> out to them (as
> | > | | Howie did to you) that they don't generally bounce 
> the e-mails, so
> | > | | the sender has no way of knowing what the problem is 
> so they may
> | > | | rectify it, or even if there is a problem on his/her 
> end and that the
> | > | | best course of action is to dump AOL for a true ISP.
> | > | |
> | > | | That said, I do have an AOL account which I use for 
> testing web
> | > | | sites. Email address is buddy123. I'll be glad to 
> check the account
> | > | | if you want to send something there.
> | > | | --
> | > | |
> | > | | Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
> | > | |
> | > | | _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> | > | | ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
> | > | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.twcreations.com/ 954.721.3452
> | > | |
> | > | |
> | > |
> | >
> | 
> 
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