Last I checked, WebLogic had the largest market share in the J2EE space followed closely behind WebSphere.
Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -----Original Message----- > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:55 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!! > > > > > Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which > > applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free ones > > like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I ask because I > > know you went to a lot of effort to support some of the commercial app > > servers (BD's WAR creation wizard has specific check boxes for one of > > them but I can't remember which). > > > > Two: > > Those with money are headed towards WebSphere. > Those without money or OSS-oriented are moving to JBoss. > > In my current/past/future client list, 2 are WS, 6-8 are headed JBoss, 1 > went WebLogic (and DB2 -- go figure. you'd think IBM would help them out > to > get both products in there). Articles I've read recently (and of course > recycled) implied the top three J2EE servers are Websphere, JBoss, and > some > other one not necessarily in that order -- you (MM) guys probably have > access to better industry sales data and reports than I do. > > If you're building an app to target multiple J2EE enviroments you > inevitable > run into issues with resource descriptors, the security API, etc, even > between versions of the same J2EE app server can be significant when using > it for anything non-trivial. > > I went through the sales process in a previous project -- before they said > license our app and ColdFusion for each server. Easy to calculate the > price > in that scenario > > Price = product + (CF license * # of servers) > > But now for a mixed CF/J2EE app, the price of an app built using CFMX and > J2EE is > > Price = product + (CFMX license * # of servers) + (J2EE license * # of > servers # number of processor/server) > > Pretty clear to see that from a cost perspective, you want that last > factor > to drop right back out of the equation! And that means JBoss. Or it may > mean > moving to Solaris and getting SunONE for free. > > And look at the details -- let's say the price of the app you're selling > is > $10k. $10k plus $799 for CF5 Pro on the dual proc production server and > the > dual proc stage server is a nobrainer -- less that 15% of total. And it's > easy to manage CF -- the IT team doesn't scream to loudly. > > Now take the newer scenario -- my app is $10k plus $3400*4 for J2EE CFMX > on > four procs plus let's say $3-4k/processor for a good deal from IBM on > Websphere. Now the licenses cost *twice* what the application does. Plus > now > you also need someone capable of managing a Java app server on the IT > team, > or training, or even more to contract it out. > > Of course this is also a solid argument for avoiding J2EE features in a > ColdFusion MX app :) > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
