PHP's ubiquity is also helped by the fact that you can get 10$/month web hosting with MySQL, Apache and PHP with lots of goodies. Even basic CF hosting with Access as a back end (yikes) is fairly expensive. PHP will always be free, and unless a free CFML-compliant application server comes around that can be used in a large hosting environment, you won't see CF as big as PHP with the masses.
- Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: RE: PHP versus CF Development Speed? > I think that has more to do with the size of the community. There are just > more PHP coders around, likely largely due to the fact that free versions of > CF Server for development are such a recent thing. I think we'll catch up > with the PHP crowd at some point. And those of us with the time and ability > I think are contributing to the OS community with CF code, but I really > don't see the availability of OS code as a selling point for a technology > anyway. I still have an OS project in my sig file. :) > > > s. isaac dealey 954-776-0046 > > new epoch http://www.turnkey.to > > lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to > > tapestry api is opensource http://www.turnkey.to/tapi > > certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer > http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 > > > > I think that while it may be true that their is a lot of > > code for CF, there > > is not a lot of free or open source code for CF. This is > > one place where PHP > > or Perl have an advantage. > > > > Luis > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:04 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: PHP versus CF Development Speed? > > > >> I think you're all missing the point if you think that > >> more code = > >> longer development time. > >> > >> Remember, for PHP, there are massive script archives out > >> there with > >> example code you can just grab and use. Even the function > >> docs at > >> php.net are collaborative... a technique Macromedia has > >> tried to > >> co-opt. > > > Actually let's reverse that... The livedocs system in use > > at Macromedia > > was in use at Allaire in, I think 1998 (around when CF 3 > > had come out I > > think, but perhaps CF 4). > > > It's a good idea and I think that everybody should co opt > > it, but when > > you shout > > "co-opted" then let's be sure who did what. > > >> Any good developer has the basics (db connections, that > >> sort of thing) > > >> socked away in a little archive somewhere to reuse. > > > This is true of any decent language... And has been one of > > the greatest > > strengths of CF for many years now. The official tag > > gallery is only a > > stratching of the surface. Sites like cflib.org, > > CFCZone.org, cfXtras, > > Cfcustomtags.com and so forth are also taking on their > > niches with a > > force. > > > For any language the concept of "build-once, use often" > > hold true. > > However with PHP there is a sense that some very common > > tasks require > > that. > > > The goal of CF from the start has been abstraction of > > complexity and the > > 80/20 rule. Any functionality user commonly in Web > > Applications is made > > insanely simple in CF. > > > This means that some rarely used functionality is left out > > (like direct > > socket access) but the point is that that IS rarely used. > > For those > > that used functionality CF has made itself the most > > adaptable of > > languages: CFXs (in Java, C or Delphi), COM, CORBA, JSP > > Tags, Java > > Classes, etc. > > > So CF also takes advantage of the code libraries and > > component archives > > of many other languages. > > > Basically there's more crap out there that'll run on CF > > than any other > > language period. > > > Jim Davis > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > > Archives: > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index. > > cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 > > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > > Get the mailserver that powers this list at > > http://www.coolfusion.com > > > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/uns > > ubscribe.cfm?user=633.558.4 > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
