Flat rates *shiver* in the words of the very wise Monty Python (from 
Search for the holy grail) RUN AWAY!!!!

Dana Tierney wrote:
> true. In the situatin I a thinking of I had a flat rate per month contract 
> and then they wanted the password. major mistake.
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:41:42 -0400, Gabriel Robichaud 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>My motto is, give them all the passwords and access they want because it 
>>will translate to one thing for me : BILLABLE HOUR$! ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>Dana Tierney wrote:
>>
>>>I have been there and am now exteeeeeeemely reluctant to enter into any 
>>>situation where a client has the password to the site and I am 
>>>responsible for maintaining it.
>>>
>>>Dana
>>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:31:39 -0700, Bryan Stevenson 
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ahhhhh clients touching code.....I had one open a bunch of CF files in
>>>>Studio with the design tab....can you say "where'd my CF code go"?? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Always nice to have your work obliterated....oh well I struck a deal 
>>>>with
>>>>him after that....any errors I found caused by him cost him $100
>>>>cash....funny...no more errors ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>>>>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>>>>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>>>>t. 250.920.8830
>>>>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Macromedia Associate Partner
>>>>www.macromedia.com
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
>>>>Founder & Director
>>>>www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Dan Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:15 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: OT~ but a good laugh:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>At my old job, part of my workload was teaching Office 97/2000 classes
>>>>>to clients who were going to start using the software we designed for
>>>>>them. One segment of the class was teaching FrontPage. That was
>>>>>tourture. I change the corseload a bit and just showed them HTML and 
>>>>>how
>>>>>the generally use a WYSIWYG editor. At the end of the class, I handed
>>>>>them CDs with trial versions of Dreamweaver 3.0 :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:08 PM
>>>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>>>Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have had a few html encounters of the Word kind :) Clients trying to
>>>>>help. Or something.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dana
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:04:26 -0400, Dan Phillips
>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey know. I made my first netpage for the innerweb that way. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm kidding!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 
>>>>>>13,
>>>>>>2003 1:56 PM
>>>>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>>>>Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dreamweaver has commands to clean up HTML which would probably have
>>>>>>>saved
>>>>>>>you a lot of work. It even has a specific command to clean up Word-
>>>>>>>generated HTML :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Word generated HTML! (runs screaming)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Mr Jones and me
>>>>>We're stumbling through the barrio....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
> 
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