If there's ONE advantage more than any other that I am grateful for, it's 
that I started building web sites back in January of 95.  Netscape 0.9 beta 
was the browser to beat all browsers, however the majority of surfers were 
still using Linx (a text based browser - NO images!), and there were about 
30 others on the market that year... Mosaic, Netcom, Prodigy...

So I had NO CHOICE back then but to learn raw HTML, yes, using NOTEPAD.  Of 
course for the past several years I've been using HomeSite, however 
when  I'm out at a client's and there's a quick fix to be had, I always 
just open NotePad.  Billy's good for SOME software after all!





At 09:42 PM 6/12/03 -0400, you wrote:
>i must admit, i did start with fp98
>I'm assuming thats why I cant spell now;)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rafael Alan Bleiweiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:26 PM
>Subject: RE: OT~ but a good laugh:)
>
>
> > hahaha  I've been dealing with clients who like FrontPage since the Spring
> > of 96!  Visualize converting fifty uniquely "coded" FrontPage web pages
> > into "reasonably usable" HTML pages, by hand, line by line for the first
> > half dozen til you can catalogue all the common "extra" code, then
>globally
> > stripping those out, then finally going back and looking line by line for
> > all the anomalies.
> >
> > And if it's still going on, why would anyone even begin to believe Billy's
> > got his Redmond staff working on dealing with that at this point?  hahaha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > download the whole large uncompressed file.  Add to that all the burden
>code
> > >they have with fragmented tags, font tags on and off everywhere, empty
> > >paragraph tags, empty font tags, additional and unnecessary style tags
>etc
> > >etc.. and you can take a page from 150kb down to about 15mb without doing
>a
> > >lot of thinking.
> > >
> > >Oh and  don't try to look at their sites with Netscape.
> > >
> > >I do hope this new version is better.
> > >
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Michael Kear
> > >Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > >AFP Webworks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 7:08 AM
> > >To: CF-Talk
> > >Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
> > >
> > >as usual you are correct jochem
> > >heres the rest:
> > >Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 "We've really focused on generating
> > >
> > >clean, industry-standard HTML code." they claim. We expect it to produce
> > >
> > >proprietary, MS-oriented mark-up that only works in IE6. But then we're
> > >
> > >cynical. Click here
> > >
> > ><http://rss.com.com/2100-1012_3-1015009.html?type=pt%02%22=rss&tag=feed 
> &> >subj=news> to read more.
> > >
> > >Any of you going to stop using DMX and start using FrontPage? Tell us by
> > >
> > >mailing Bruce Lawson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:00 PM
> > >Subject: Re: OT~ but a good laugh:)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dave Lyons wrote:
> > > > > Microsoft announce FrontPage 2003 "We've really focused on
> > > > > generating clean, industry-standard HTML code." they claim.
> > > >
> > > > That would be quite a change. IIRC, during the anti-trust trials Bill
> > > > Gates himself has delivered sworn testimony that Frontpage is designed
> > > > to only work with IE.
> > > >
> > > > Jochem
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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