Bryan, I think you and I are SOL unless we can find someone who is successfully using 
the Gateway as a proxy for web services on a machine that has been updated with U3. 

I'm gonna try the "other" list to see if anyone is running this on their site with U3. 
See you there...

-Igor



-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX


Adam,

Igor is right...and it's not using Ben's gateway...it's calling a CFC that
Ben has exposed....thus it's using my gateway to consume the webservice
AFAIK

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Ilyinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX


> Adam,
>
> How can a SWF connect to a Remote server directly? Are you saying that
Bryan should be using Ben's Gateway (i.e.,
http://www.forta.com/flashservices/gateway or wherever it is...)?
Theoretically it could work, if Ben left his service open like that, but I
don't think he would even consider doing this. Nor is that a good model
going forward.
>
> Otherwise, if you have a configuration where you can consume a web service
directly from Flash (Excluding Central) then I think you know something we
don't. So do tell...
>
> For the record, both Bryan's and my issues and goals are the same. We need
to consume ben's tip web service for a CFUG site through a flash app
interface... I only introduced the babelfish example because it is a simpler
example, and is directly from Macromedia's site, so that means it SHOULD
work.
>
> -Igor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
>
>
> Bryan,
>
> I'm still kind of confused as to what's going on. Technically speaking,
> the only thing that has changed in the location of the SWF file, which
> shouldn't be relying on your CFMX box for anything. (Unless you are
> routing the call through a CFC of your own) The SWF file should be
> connecting directly to Ben's server via his remoting gateway.
>
> If this is the setup, then it's safe to say your new server is not the
> culprit. Because all it should be doing is hosting the SWF file. What's
> the URL to the CFUG page? I'll test to see if it works on my network or
> not.
>
> Adam Wayne Lehman
> Web Systems Developer
> Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> Distance Education Division
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
>
> Hey Adam,
>
> Not sure if you're asking me or Igor...so here goes....
>
> I have a Flash ap for viewing Ben Forta's Daily CF tips previously setup
> as
> follows:
>
> -site that calls the SWF from my server at home sites on a CF 5 server
> (thus
> calling teh SWF from my MX server at home
> -SWF calls remote webservice provided by Ben
> -home server has MX with U3 installed
>
> The change:
> -that server at home is gone
> -new server in office (MX with U3 installed) now has the SWF
> -CF 5 site code adjusted to point at new location of SWF
> -SWF code adjusted to use flashservices gateway on new server in office
>
> So basically the same dang setup....same versions....same web.xml
> files...but on the new server it won't connect to Ben's
> webservice....I'm
> lost ;-)
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Wayne Lehman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:35 AM
> Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
>
>
> > Ok, excuse my ignorance, but I'm a bit confused. You have a flash
> > application that can call a cfc from your cfmx server fine. But when
> you
> > try and access a remote webservice it doesn't work? (I thought this is
> > what ur first post said, but the responses since seem to imply that
> you
> > can get it working on your own cfmx box)
> >
> > What exactly happens when it doesn't work? Any errors?
> >
> > Adam Wayne Lehman
> > Web Systems Developer
> > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> > Distance Education Division
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Igor Ilyinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:18 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> >
> > If that were the case... KA-CHING for Macromedia every time someone
> uses
> > Flash Remoting. Imagine 4 clustered web servers with Flash MX on each
> > one. $2000 extra, just to do remoting???
> >
> > I think MM is smarter than that. Anyway, SWFs pride themselves on
> being
> > 'contained' within their own shell, so there should be no inherent
> > dependencies for deployment. Unless, of course, you're running
> FlashComm
> > apps.
> >
> >
> > How deep is this thing?
> > Igor
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> >
> >
> > This may be a stupid question....but does Flash MX have to be
> installed
> > on
> > the server for this to work?
> >
> > I don't think so...but I'm grasping at straws here ;-)
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Ilyinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> >
> >
> > > Bryan, I think I found it
> > >
> > > check this
> >
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/releasenote
> > s_mx
> > _updater01.html
> > > under "flash remoting-related issues" (or read snippet below)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Access from Macromedia Flash to web services using the Flash Gateway
> > is
> > disabled by default in Updater 3. To enable access from Macromedia
> Flash
> > to
> > web services add the following DISABLE_CFWS_ADAPTERS Servlet
> init-param
> > entry to the FlashGatewayServlet entry in the web.xml file that is
> > contained
> > in the flashgateway.ear archive.
> > >
> > > <init-param>
> > > < param-name>DISABLE_CFWS_ADAPTERS</param-name>
> > > < param-value>false</param-value>
> > > < description>When set to true, this setting disables the ColdFusion
> > WebServices Adapters in the gateway.</description>
> > > < /init-param>
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:47 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder if it's this bit??:
> > > >      <servlet-mapping>
> > > >       <servlet-name>FlashGateway</servlet-name>
> > > >        <url-pattern>/flashservices</url-pattern>
> > > >      </servlet-mapping>
> > >
> > > All my old Flash work uses
> http://"domain_or_IP"/flashservices/gateway
> > >
> > > The above just says /flashservices (no /gateway)....could that be
> it?
> > >
> > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > www.macromedia.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > Founder & Director
> > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Townend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > >
> > >
> > > > It doesn't kill remoting...
> > > >
> > > > What it just stops flash from conneting to other webservices
> running
> > on
> > > > other machines (afaik)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 18:37
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Same here....don't have that setting but U3 is installed
> > > >
> > > > I also installed U3 on another server and it DID NOT kill
> > remoting....so
> > > I'm
> > > > not sure that's the issue??
> > > >
> > > > colour me confused by remoting again ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > > www.macromedia.com
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > Founder & Director
> > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Ilyinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Collin,
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have a 'DISABLE_CFWS_ADAPTERS' boolean in web.xml. All I
> > have
> > > > > is
> > > > this....
> > > > >
> > > > > <servlet>
> > > > >        <servlet-name>FlashGateway</servlet-name>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > <servlet-class>flashgateway.controller.GatewayServlet</servlet-class>
> > > > >        <display-name>Flash Gateway</display-name>
> > > > >        <description>Allows flash to connect to CFML and CFC
> > > > templates.</description>
> > > > >      </servlet>
> > > > >
> > > > >      <servlet-mapping>
> > > > >       <servlet-name>FlashGateway</servlet-name>
> > > > >        <url-pattern>/flashservices</url-pattern>
> > > > >      </servlet-mapping>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Collin Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:32 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > /WEB-INF/web.xml
> > > > >
> > > > > In the "FlashGateway" servlet section, change
> > "DISABLE_CFWS_ADAPTERS"
> > > > boolen value to "false". Restart.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Collin Tobin
> > > > > CFMX QA Engineer
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mike Townend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:27 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you running updater 3 on the cfserver?
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe they switched that off for this update... So you will
> > need
> > > > > to
> > > > edit
> > > > > one of the XML configuration files for CF and switch it back
> on...
> > > > > Cant remember which one, but I assume the U3 release notes will
> > have
> > > > > this documented
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Mikey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Igor Ilyinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 16:01
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Flash Remoting Issues with CFMX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Any remoting gurus out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an app that uses Flash Remoting to consume local CFCs and
> > as a
> > > > proxy
> > > > > to consume remote web services. However, on my host, the first
> > part
> > > > > works, but the second part (consuming remot web services) does
> > not.
> > > > > Are there any configurational changes that I am overlooking? Any
> > > > > suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > I was going to try consuming my CFC as a web service through the
> > Flash
> > > > > remoting proxy, but I'm not sure what that should indicate to
> me.
> > Any
> > > > > insights? Or a different list that may be able to help.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > -Igor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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