I wouldn't say there's a potential to change, I would say it *will* change, eventually. That's just the nature of what we do. The great things we build today will be obsolete eventually. Look at it as, does this framework (fusebox, struts, whatever) help me today build better applications? Just deal with the changes as they come.
As for me, I think fusebox and mach-ii have made a nice progression based on the technologies of the day. Mark -----Original Message----- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: re: Mach-II Isn't there always the potential that the xml dialect may change for the purpose of facilitating new features in the framework? > It's not just for cross-language purposes, Isaac, though > that is > important (we've got people working on PHP, Python, and > Lasso with .NET > and Java to come shortly) but just as importantly, for > consistency > across multiple versions. Even if we change the internals > of the > framework between versions, the XML will provide a > consistent interface > to the framework. > Hal Helms > "Java for CF Programmers" class > in Las Vegas, August 18-22 > www.halhelms.com > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: re: Mach-II > Yep... I wasn't really in touch with where you folks were > in that > process (finishing the beta, getting documentation done, > etc.)... I > wasn't griping -- I had just noticed several people point > to > http://beta.fusebox.org and had the impression that this > response was > roughly equivalent of: > Q. Can you explain relativity to me? > A. Relativity is relative. > :) > I'll admit that until I read something specifically about > converting > mach-ii apps to other languages my basic reaction to the > addition and > application of the xml was to think it was gratuitous -- > i.e. xml for > the sake of xml instead of xml for the sake of meeting a > goal. Though in > retrospect it makes sense if you're trying to create an > architecture > that makes it easier to port applications to disparate > languages. > Isaac > --- Hal Helms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hopefully, by the time we launch Mach-II, we'll have time >> to write a >> much more accessible guide. Without some sample code to >> work with, >> we're left with speaking in abstractions that, while >> true, are not >> real helpful as far as providing specifics. >> >> Hal Helms >> "Java for CF Programmers" class >> in Las Vegas, August 18-22 >> www.halhelms.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:51 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: Re: Mach II >> >> >> I think the general idea was that he found the info on >> that site >> confusing -- which is why he was asking for an "idiot's >> guide"... I >> don't find it surprising... the verbiage is rather >> weighty... For >> instance: >> >> This headline: Event-Based, Implicit Invocation >> Architecture >> on this page: >> http://beta.fusebox.org/index.cfm?method=FuseboxMX.basicC >> oncepts >> >> Note that the method is labelled "basicConcepts" ... but >> the verbiage >> isn't very basic... I think the average new person >> attacking that site >> is probably looking for something much more accessible... >> Unfortunately >> I don't have any good alternative verbiage off the top of >> my head. >> > ===== > S. Isaac Dealey 972.490.6624 > Lead Architect Tapestry CMS http://products.turnkey.to > Tapestry API is Open Source http://www.turnkey.to/tapi > Team Macromedia Volunteer > http://www.macromedia.com/go/team > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index. > cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these > lists and provide more resources for the community. > http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/uns > ubscribe.cfm?user=633.558.4 s. isaac dealey 972-490-6624 new epoch http://www.turnkey.to lead architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to tapestry api is opensource http://www.turnkey.to/tapi team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=21816 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
