Mike H.

The SAP DB I saw was implemented by SAP for a major Telcomm in Canada.
There were at least hundreds of tables with no naming conventions that I
saw.  The data was always out of date or otherwise screwed up.  All it took
was CF 3.1, Access 97 (1.2 GB), and 2 CF developers to blow it away.  All of
a sudden our tiny department out performed SAP and PeopleSoft according to
the users of the HR system we built (at WAY less cost of course) ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL


> Brian -
>
> Are you talking about a complete SAP solution or SAPDB? Because, either
> way, the quality of the solution depends entirely on the skills of the
> people implementing it. I suspect your issue is really with the people
> that put it together.
>
> My group has taken a number of our Oracle applications over to SAPDB and
> the database performs beautifully. Aside from having to change some SQL,
> we have run into no problems and found this to be a more effective
> solution than mySql or even postGres.
>
> M
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:40 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> >
> >
> > Folks seem to be using SAP as a "good" reference....well I've
> > seen one before and it was the biggest cluster f%^ I've ever
> > seen.  Personally saying MySQL is going to be somehow
> > involved with SAP does not instill any confidence in MySQL ;-)
> >
> > Just my 2 cents ;-)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:11 AM
> > Subject: RE: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> >
> >
> > > MySQL is taking over sapDB.  they are rebranding it right now, and
> > > then
> > will
> > > begin developing further versions.  For more info, check out
> > www.mysql.com.
> > >
> > > barneyb
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> > > AudienceCentral
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > voice : 360.756.8080 x12
> > > fax   : 360.647.5351
> > >
> > > www.audiencecentral.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:32 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bryan -
> > > >
> > > > I am getting in a little late on all this, but there is a true
> > > > enterprise class open source database you might want to
> > take a look
> > > > at called SAPDB.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sapdb.org/
> > > >
> > > > Supports stored procedures, triggers, transactions,
> > views, etc. and
> > > > it is blazingly fast. I have been using it for more than
> > a year with
> > > > no issues. We are moving things from Oracle over to SAP left and
> > > > right.
> > > >
> > > > It is definitely not as popular as mysql, and I have
> > heard a lot of
> > > > people complain about the UI. Granted, the database could
> > be a lot
> > > > more user friendly, but I think it is no more / less
> > confusing than
> > > > Oracle on a linux box.
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:28 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Re: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK..Clint...but what about all the Enterprise DB stuff that's
> > > > > missing...triggers/SPs/views and even simple sub-queries etc.??
> > > > >
> > > > > From what I've been reading MySQL just isn't at the enterprise
> > > > > level yet...am I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > > > www.macromedia.com
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > > Founder & Director
> > > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I will add my 2 cents..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In my tests, MySQL is faster than MSSQL. PHPMyAdmin is
> > > > > great from my
> > > > > > view. It has a learning curve, but it keeps getting better
> > > > > and better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clint
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:11 PM
> > > > > > Subject: MS SQL Server vs. MySQL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not all that familiar with MySQL, but from what I
> > > > > hear it's not
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > as MS SQL Server (which I use along with Oracle).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tried using MyPHPAdmin to administer MySQL before
> > > > > and all I can
> > > > > > > say
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > it sucked eggs...security was confusing as all hell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The MySQL.com website says that upcoming features
> > for version
> > > > > > > 5
> > > > > > > include: -views -stored procedures
> > > > > > > -triggers
> > > > > > > -sub-queries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now if it's missing all that then what is it....Access on
> > > > > steroids??
> > > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Opinions please
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > > > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > > > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > > > > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > > > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > > > > > www.macromedia.com
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > > > > Founder & Director
> > > > > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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