I think you are getting off track, or I misunderstood the purpose of your original post. Of course a customer/client can set up whatever software they wish to monitor server uptime, in face we will furnish code for that to the client at no extra charge. It is very easy to set up with a CFC and CFSchedule.
I had previously qualified my statement as defining the pings coming from someone with whom we had no relationship. In fact I run server monitoring software on my network myself. If I am hosting your web site, then you would be entitled to know about your up time, even if you did not want to wait for the daily statistical report sent to you every day anyway. The example you give would not apply to the scenario I painted, because they are obviously customers/clients. You would likewise be entitled to pop your mail, send mail, or whatever service you were being provided. ====================================== Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf ====================================== If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | > As for someone saying the attacking a network not under your control is | ethical | > and Legal, I will remind that person that this system is in Texas, and we | have | > statutes making the practice illegal, and subject to substantial fines. | Put | > that together with an Attorney General who is enthusiastic about | prosecuting | > computer crimes. | | Wow. So do you filter folks using Outlook that do an SMTP get every minute | or so with the default settings in Office 2k/xp? Are they *attacking* you as | well? Frequent web hits from the same client? Not clear from your site how | you bill, but industry standard is either 95% peak usage or total GB per | month. If I'm paying for traffic, you shouldn't care what it is, as long as | it's legal. | | It comes down to what's an attack. I'd have trouble understanding six pings | being an attack -- many small businesses (same folks who use shared servers | and lots of your customers, right?) use 1 IP address and NAT it. Try this | scenario | | "Bob, I can't ping the server. Can you try Sue?". | "No luck here Bill, I'll try it from the server". | "alright, i'll try it again though. | "Nope, that's not it either, I'll try it from the router/pix/whatever". | "Ok, now I have to call support to see what's up.... " | "Yes sir, I understand you're having a problem. Oh -- you were attacking our | server and we turned you off". | | Not very customer-centric. And I bet you'd have trouble defending that in | court under that Texas law.... though I'm not familiar with Texas statutes, | but I am with Virginia's -- and we're the Silicon Dominion so there's quite | a few hi-tech laws. But redalert.com (now part of Keynote now) isn't | violating any laws as far as "attacking" sites. | | No question Welchia violated laws, but there's a big difference between | Welchia pinging you and a *customer* monitoring the site they pay you for. | I'm the first person to say monitor the service you really need to | monitor -- eg HTTP if it's web, SMTP if it's outbound mail, etc. Personally | I'm a big fan of nagios and most every service provider I've ever dealt with | had at least MRTG running internally to provide a window into uptime. That | said, I still start with a ping when someone tells me we have a problem. | | > Like it or not, unnecessary internet traffic is just that, unnecessary. | So get | > a real job. | | Who judges what's "unnecessary"? All that graphic crap, flash, etc all get | in the way of the text content. It's sort of unnecessary so just filter it | out too? And the stupid stuff -- let's get rid of that. No more Survivor fan | sites. And none of these useless newsgroups :) | | Welchia was nasty, but a block on the appropriate RPC ports at the perimeter | routers and a little proactive monitoring of the syslog for scanning pings | is plenty to protect you. It's not *that* hard to write a perl script that's | a little more forgiving. We share space with Crutchfield and a couple other | large regional companies and had no issues other than general slowness from | the *rest* of world, particularly Adelphia which handled everything pretty | darn poorly. | | Regards, | | John Paul Ashenfelter | CTO/Transitionpoint | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138325 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
