I love my new job with "smartcards". However at the same time it is also
quite scary.

The potential for misuse by "trusted" entities is very real. For our purpose
however it is ensuring security and personal information is not available -
even to me as the core developer.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: security flaw in web services


But what's this have to do with your login security flaw idea?  Sure, client
IP
addresses are easily forged.  Using this capability to crack even a simple
login mechanism isn't nearly as easy, though.  And where's the link between
web
logins and spam?  What exactly are you calling spam?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: security flaw in web services


> I can pull up some posts sent to a closed list from a few years back where
there
> was an issue with CFHTTP. Seems that you could forge what would show up in
the
> CGI vars using it. That 'feature' was yanked really fast.
> There's 2 different things here. The first is the reported information and
the
> second is the 'true' information. The reported information (i.e. coming
from
the
> external client) can never be trusted as it can be forged. The 'true'
> information is usually true except when its not. Sometimes its easy to
forge
the
> 'true' information and sometimes not.
>
>
> > But surely that's email only - not web pages?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 2:49 p.m.
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: security flaw in web services
> >
> >
> >
> > You can fake the reported IP. I had mentioned this as a possible spam
thing
> > and
> > I've actually seen it in the wild with spam from 2 different places.
> >
> > > > checking amount of attempts per IP - ip can be forged
> > >
> > > You can't fake an IP and expect TCP/IP to work.
> > >
> > > Jochem



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