That is a great quote from Shaw.


Your def right being that they are 'webstandards.org', I'm just not sure
who would/should follow their lead.


I once took over a contract where the client's site was having horrible
HTML display issues across the browsers. When the client contacted noted
these issues to the original vendor, the vendor responded "File a bug
report with MS, it's not our problem. If everyone would just email Bill
Gates and complain, your website would work across browsers". Needless
to say that vendor was fired.


But rather than web standards, why not limit the techniques or features
if they are not cross browser compliant. Rather than blindly use things
that won't work, why not boycott them.


I dunno, as a mid 90s web developer I've always assumed it part of my
job to ensure cross browser compatibility. This whole web standards
thing just seems like a bunch of lazy developers to me.


Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Safari Issues


> As I fully agree with the concept of web standards, I see it
> very much like world peace. It's just a concept not a reality.
> I think its best not to code for browsers _or_ web standards,
> but better to code for the users.

For most websites, I'd probably agree with you, but if someone doesn't
push
for standards-based HTML, we'll be stuck with the status quo, which
really
sucks.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

> Having a site with un-selectable text may be traced back to an
> issue with how IE renders HTML, but I feel it's irresponsible
> that the developers of webstandards.org would knowingly put
> their ideals before the user experience.

Normally, I would agree with you, but after all, this is
"webstandards.org".
Their entire reason for being is ... web standards! If they were to make
compromises to deal with IE deficiencies, that wouldn't say very much
for
them, now would it?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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