-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 January 2004 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
Given that there are many more reputable publications that will
compensate the author for CFML content says to me at least that a
person's time would be better spent elsewhere. In fact, I strongly
believe that many other publications that aren't specific to CFML have
more CF readers anyway.
-Matt
On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Simon Horwith wrote:
> I think your opinions are a bit strong, but I can relate with what
> you're
> saying and believe me - no offense taken. Personally, I get more from
> the
> CFDJ articles than I ever have or likely will from any of the
> ColdFusion
> books on the market. I also think that if you're going to spend money
> on
> something, why not on something that's kept up to date, right?
> As for the quality of the content - here's a novel idea - do something
> about
> it!! Why not help to make the content more what you think it should
> be by
> writing an article rather than complaining aabout it?
> Visithttp://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/writers.cfmfor more info.
>
> ~Simon
>
> Simon Horwith
> CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
> Member of Team Macromedia
> Macromedia Certified Instructor
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Certified Flash MX Developer
> CFDJList - List Administrator
> http://www.how2cf.com/ <http://www.how2cf.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 08 January 2004 06:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
>
> Simon,
>
> With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I
> have
> to
> say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ.
> But
> for
> $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column
> contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/),
> and
> Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to
> me).
> But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get
> articles
> that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful
> topics
> with meaty code samples as opposed to "hello world" theoretical
> statements
> and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of
> the
> subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by
> the
> way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant
> information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think
> *maybe*
> half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and
> promos
> that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the
> monthly
> issue comes out, most "hot topics" are outdated, such as hotfix
> announcements, etc.
>
> Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk,
> CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I
> like
> to
> buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines,
> training,
> etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for
> ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if
> I
> ever
> needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me
> started
> on their website...
>
> Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect
> for
> everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are
> people out
> there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ,
> especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the
> bill, I
> think my opinion is pretty clear.
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Horwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM
> Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
>
> > I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is
> terrific
> for
> > what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many
> of the
> > books in some ways. It costs a little more than most of the books
> on
> the
> > market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and
> community
> > activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as
> opposed
> to
> > being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc.
> >
> > ~Simon
> >
> > Simon Horwith
> > CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
> > Member of Team Macromedia
> > Macromedia Certified Instructor
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > Certified Flash MX Developer
> > CFDJList - List Administrator
> >http://www.how2cf.com/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
> >
> >
> > not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get.
> >
> > I know many people who don't care, because their company pays
> for it.
> i'm
> > not in that position, unfortunately.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Matt Robertson
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM
> > Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
> >
> > I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks
> here
> did.
> > Did the CFDJ subscription reach strike anyone else as surprising?
> >
> > "ColdFusion Developer's Journal: 3,000 copies"
> >
> > Bummer. Good luck to 'em, though.
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSB Designs, Inc.http://mysecretbase.com
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
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